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Old July 11th, 2013, 09:18   #61
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Arrow update;Utah to soon post 80, Mass has a bill in the legislature that will allow 70

Massachusetts currently has a active bill in the legislature that will allow 70 mph on rural freeways across the state.

Utah is expecting to post some new 80 mph zones as early as August.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 08:54   #62
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I'm curious what sections you feel could/should be raised to 75mph? Aside from I-40 east of Raleigh.

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64/264 of Raleigh are marked at 70, but traffic is typically moving closer to 80 as is. Even 95 sees speed close to that a lot of the time. I-85, at least the section from Durham north is a real straight shot with light traffic as well.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 10:18   #63
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64/264 of Raleigh are marked at 70, but traffic is typically moving closer to 80 as is. Even 95 sees speed close to that a lot of the time. I-85, at least the section from Durham north is a real straight shot with light traffic as well.
I'm not sure how accurate this is but this is what I found from a quick search, US 64 & 264 were built/completed from Raleigh to I-95 in 1975. US 64 east of Raleigh to Rocky Mount is today built to highest speed standard and is planned to become part of I-44 in the next decade.

In the mid 80s when it was still 55 maximum I drove on these roads twice a week for almost a year. I would set the cruise on 68-70 while crossing that stretch, always had my escort on while crossing every time! On that stretch and few others in NC during that time unless you were above 70 the NCHP would not bother you. Many here are too young to remember driving in the time when the posted speed limit maxed out at 55 across the US, many here are....

These highways(freeways) were designed for at least 75 mph. And they have had safety innovations and improvements added since they were built to make higher speed travel safer.......
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Old July 18th, 2013, 11:03   #64
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264, at least the modern incarnation (4+ lanes, divided), is much newer than that. It didn't open fully, in uninterrupted fashion to Greenville until 2004. I can remember "back in the day" Greenville to Raleigh being a 2 1/2 hour trek... through Farmville, Wilson, etc, most of it 2 lanes.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 12:08   #65
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264, at least the modern incarnation (4+ lanes, divided), is much newer than that. It didn't open fully, in uninterrupted fashion to Greenville until 2004. I can remember "back in the day" Greenville to Raleigh being a 2 1/2 hour trek... through Farmville, Wilson, etc, most of it 2 lanes.
The stretches of US 64 & 264 I was talking about being built opening in 1975 were from Raleigh to I-95, they split at Zebulon.

From there on both they were mostly just divided highways with intersections, driveways and lot of traffic light for most or the way to Greenville on US 264. Greenville had a bypass, controlled access freeway built in the mid 1970s. I do remember when they were building the current freeway to Williamston. It was built and opened in stages.

I don't recall when the freeway parts of US 64 east of Rocky Mount were built, but if memory serves the freeway ended just outside of town.

I made the drive a couple of times a week for about a year (83-84) from Charlotte to Aurora. A drive which took me across the state on I-85 to Durham, Durham Freeway to the cut off stretch of I-40 between Durham & Raleigh, around Raleigh on the bypass. From there I used US 64/264 to 264 to Washington. Back then it was a patchwork of divided highways, freeways and two lane highways. From I-95 to Greenville it was a divided highway mostly that took you right through the center of Wilson. I remember a place east of Greenville where on the bypass you were going east,west,north & south all at the same time on one road, I have a picture of that sign somewhere.....

The state spent a lot of money to build freeways it east of I-95, there was a big fight in the legislature at the time.

I have made the drive on US 64 to Plymouth for work a few times over the years. Today it is 70 mph from Zebulon to just outside of Williamston. Today it is a divided highway from Williamston to just east of Plymouth. From there US 64 turns back into a 70 mph posted freeway again all the way to Columbia heading to the outer banks.

I could you tell the time frames of when each of the freeway stretches opened around a lot of the state because I have traveled many of the areas before and after they were built. It is so much easier, quicker, and safer to get around most of eastern NC today than it was just 10 years ago......
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Believe me, I know, I've lived in Greenville mile whole life (So, since the mid-'80s) and have been driving around here since 2001. These days I make a round trip to the triangle at least 2-3 times a month. Don't head east from here too often though, except the occasional trip up to Elizabeth City for work.
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I just crossed the whole US via I 80 and I 90 and the highest speed limit we came across was 75 MPH.

We will be heading home via I 70 and it'll be interesting to see if it is higher anywhere.
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Old July 19th, 2013, 16:08   #68
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I just crossed the whole US via I 80 and I 90 and the highest speed limit we came across was 75 MPH.

We will be heading home via I 70 and it'll be interesting to see if it is higher anywhere.
Right now the only 80 mph posted sections are four sections on I-15, two north of the I-70 intersection starting around Nephi and two on the way the Arizona border from just north of Beaver. I was through there two springs ago, watch the signs not a lot of warning when it goes up or down.

I was talking to a friends husband that is UTHP officer a couple of weeks ago, he told me that I-70 is not going to be part of the first sections to see the increase. What I know right now is starting in August these sections will see the increase to 80 mph:,

I-80 from Wendover to Salt Lake, more of I-15 north & south of Salt Lake, I-84 to the Idaho border, possibly some of I-80 east of the mountains to the Wyoming border. If all goes well I-70 could see the increase in late 2014.

You are pretty safe going 80-83 over most of the states freeways today, but stay under 85! 85 or higher right now is the magic number that will get you pulled over in Utah.
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 13:53   #69
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Arrow 75 limit now law on the books in Maine....

I found this today, apparently the 75 limit in Maine is now law that goes into effect on Oct.10. Apparently it is still up in the air as to whether it will be widely posted or not across Maine..........

In ILLINOIS it's still up in air as to whether Gov. Quinn will sign the 70 bill into law or not. There is about a month left for him to decide, the 70 limit would go into effect on Jan.1,2014.......

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The Maine Department of Transportation is studying the issue, after getting the green light to raise speed limits up to 75 mph on interstate highways by the legislature and governor. The department won't make a decision on whether to raise the limit until after Oct. 10 (the statute prohibits implementation before then). A spokesman for the state transportation department said the decision could go either way.

"The bill in the legislature did give the commissioner (David Bernhardt) the purview to raise the limits," Ted Talbot said. "If he saw fit, he could conduct the traffic study, and upon the results of that, he would decide if it's prudent."

Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn is considering whether to sign a bill that would raise the limit on some interstates from 65 mph to 70 mph. The urban and suburban counties in the Chicago and St. Louis areas — Cook, DuPage, Kane, Lake, Madison, McHenry, St. Clair and Will — would have the option of setting lower limits if the governor agrees to the statewide increase. The legislature overwhelmingly approved the speed limit increase.

Quinn spokesman David Blanchette said the governor has heard from those who are for and against the speed limit increase. The secretary of transportation and the state police oppose it, and businesses and other transportation groups are for it. "He is weighing the feelings of both sides and will make a decision based on his own personal feelings and the input" by mid-August, Blanchette said.

If Quinn agrees, it will take effect Jan. 1.
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 14:21   #70
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Most people drive 70 to 80 MPH, sometimes 90 MPH, on the rural interstates in IL. State cops just sit in the median and (rightfully) don't do anything.
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Old August 20th, 2013, 00:54   #71
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Arrow Wisconsin is looking at raising the limit to 70 across the state

With it looking likely last week that ILL would get the increases to 70 a Wisconsin representative proposed the raising of their limit to 70. His reason was since now they are the only state left in the region that is still 65. He is looking for a cosponsor and expects to have a bill on the floor soon.

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RACINE — Assembly Speaker Robin Vos said this week he’ll back a proposed bill that would raise state speed limits from 65 mph to 70 mph, one of several measures he expects will be brought up when legislators return for the fall session in mid-September.

Vos said the speed-limit bill is the idea of state Rep. Paul Tittl, a Manitowoc Republican. Vos said he supported the move because it would bring Wisconsin in line with its neighboring Midwestern states.

Illinois doesn’t have a 70 mph speed limit, but it’s close. A bill to raise the speed limit from 65 mph cleared the Legislature this spring and is awaiting the Illinois governor’s signature.
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Arrow NJ & Michigan proposing a limit increase to 75

In the last few days a NJ representative has been proposing increasing a freeway limit of 75 mph where the DOT would consider it safe. This proposal is accompanied by Left Lane Passing Only law.

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TRENTON — A lawmaker from Monmouth County thinks it's time for the state to re-examine the speed limits on major highways, but he wants politicians to stay out of the decision-making process.

"Speed limits should be set solely on sound engineering criteria, not the hunches of lay persons," Assemblyman Declan O'Scanlon (R-Monmouth) said in a statement issued this afternoon.

O'Scanlon said his statements that were aired on WCBS radio in New York earlier today were taken out of context, making it appear he supports raising the speed limit to 75 mph on the state's two busiest highways: the New Jersey Turnpike and the Garden State Parkway.

In a phone interview with The Star-Ledger, the Assemblyman said he supports speed limits that can safely handle traffic, but he believes it's up to engineers and other experts to decide what is a safe speed.

Based on previous traffic studies, he said, it's likely experts would determine a safe speed for the Turnpike and Parkway would be 70 to 75 mph.

“We should never have the situation where observance of a given traffic law makes you a serious hazard to yourself and others,” O’Scanlon said. “But that’s what’s currently happening. Almost every section of the Parkway, where the posted limit is 55 miles per hour, is actually designed to safely handle speed limits of 65 to 75 miles per hour. And these are the speeds 80 to 90 percenttof motorists are driving anyway. That is the case around the world, people naturally drive at reasonably, safe and prudent speeds.”

In his radio interview, O'Scanlon said raising the speed limit on the Turnpike and Parkway would cut down on accidents because vehicles would be traveling at closer to the same speed, thus decreasing the number of lane changes.

"You only have crashes and accidents when you have people overtaking other people," O'Scanlon told WCBS radio. O'Scanlon said he consulted with traffic engineers and studies before reaching his conclusion.

O'Scanlon also contends that a higher speed limit will make it less likely that police will arbitrarily pull over drivers.

A personal injury attorney quoted by WCBS disagreed strongly, saying that collisions will undoubtedly rise if vehicles are allowed to travel faster.

While most of the Garden State Parkway has a 65 mph limit, the top legal speed is 55 mph in some areas.

A bill that would change the speed limit hasn't been introduced in either the Assembly or Senate.

O'Scanlon is a co-sponsor of a bill that would double fines for motorists who fail to keep right. The Assembly passed that bill in June, but it is not yet law.
A Michigan representative is proposing the state drop the mandated maximum allowing the DOT to post whatever is prudent on freeways & highways across the state. He envisions the limit on freeways being 75- 80 or more where prudent.

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GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. If you are one of the drivers that think the posted speed limit is ‘just a suggestion’ you may soon be in luck.

Sen. Rick Jones, (R) Grand Ledge, is working to change speed limits across the state based on how fast the majority of drivers are going.

Currently, the maximum speed limit allowed by state law is 70 miles an hour. Other states like Arizona, Colorado, Louisiana, Maine, Texas, Utah and others have speed limits as high as 75 or 80 mph.

There is a science behind most of the speed limit signs according to Michigan State Police. Both MSP and the Michigan Department of Transportation use it to determine how fast you should be driving.

“M-DOT will work with MSP and do speed studies and after they get a good sampling, they will take the 85th percentile. So if 85% of the drivers or higher are going a certain speed they will go with that speed if the road has engineering and line of sight that can call for that speed,” said John Richard a spokesperson for M-DOT.

In other words Richard said going with the flow works. In Michigan it only works up to a point. Senator Rick Jones says the state should not have a maximum limit of 70 miles an hour.

“The state police advised me that many of our highways can probably go to 75 and maybe a few to 80,” said Senator Jones.

Richard said safety can be determined by the behavior of a majority of drivers.

“If someone is going 40 and someone is going 55 that really creates a dangerous situation so if we get everyone going the same amount of speed, it creates a much safer driving environment,” he said.

Based on this theory it doesn’t matter what the speed limit is, as long as everyone goes the same speed. The drivers we spoke with say they’ve noticed a need for change.

“Whenever someone actually sticks to the speed limit it’s almost like an obstacle,” said Stephen Landlann.

Landlann just moved to Grand Rapids from Germany. He said he feels safer on American roads versus some European roads without limits. He said Americans driving style is consistent and fast.

“I passed so many states and no matter what the speed limit was, it was 65, 75, or 70, it was constant. Everyone was driving above 10 miles an hour,” he said.

State Police tell us the current maximum speed limit of 70 miles an hour was not picked based on science and therefore is not the safest speed for highways based on the 85th percentile method.

M-DOT said if the speed limits were to change it would first require speed studies to be conducted and then replacing the current signs with new speed limit signs. Richard estimates that could costs millions of dollars to complete.

Senator Jones said he plans to finish the bill this fall.
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Arrow GOV signs bill, ILLINOIS to get the 70 limit starting Jan 1,2014

Gov signs 70 mph law today, today was the last day to either sign or veto. But it will be a little while before we know where it will be posted.

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SPRINGFIELD — Ignoring concerns voiced by members of his own administration, Gov. Pat Quinn signed legislation Monday raising the rural interstate speed limit to 70 mph.

The move came despite lob-bying by his top transportation agency and the Illinois State Police to keep the top limit at 65 mph.

But Quinn said the increase will bring Illinois’ rural inter-state speed limits in line with most neighboring states.

“I encourage all motorists to continue to respect our traffic laws, avoid distractions and exercise common sense behind the wheel to protect the safety of themselves and others,” he said in a prepared statement.

Under the measure, the speed limit would increase to 70 mph on Jan. 1 in all but eight counties in the Chicago area. Those counties would be allowed to keep their limits at current levels.
Illinois is among 16 states with a maximum 65 mph limit. Thirty-six states have a maxi-mum speed limit of 70 mph or more.

Supporters argued this spring that higher limits would help commercial truckers deliver their goods faster. The measure had wide support in both the House and Senate.
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rotary--you are all over this info. i saw this last night and was going to post. thanks again, at the time of your first post regarding illinios i had not yet heard anything about this.
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Finally, 70 MPH in IL. Most of us drive 75 to 85 MPH anyways, at least on 70 and 57, 74 too.
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