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Old February 24th, 2013, 16:38   #1
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BEW/BRM Engine Mount Bracket
This is the "EARLY BRACKET" (VW # 03G 199 207 F)
Explanation from MyTurboDiesel >> http://www.myturbodiesel.com/1000q/a...ount-jetta.htm
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Old February 27th, 2013, 04:17   #2
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This Bracket lets you change the Timing Belt WITHOUT removing the mounts...

Check the "myturbodiesel" link above for specifics!!
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Old February 27th, 2013, 04:27   #3
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I think you have it backwards. The early BRM mount has the front upper ear mounted to the block in the middle of the belt path, same as the BEW, ALH, etc.

The later BRM bracket has that ear moved out and attached to the accessory bracket, right next to the alternator mount, outside of the timing belt path. Change happened in June of 2005 (this is even stated in the shop procedure for toothed belt replacement).

However, it makes no difference as the bracket needs to be moved in either case to slide the tensioner off the stud, unless you remove the stud with the tensioner, and that to me can be a bit of a pain.

The F suffix is the early one, replaced by the newer G suffix (and also requires replacement of 3 other parts, as noted in ETKA).

Your picture seems strange, though, as it clearly has the F on it, but is clearly the late mount (with the long reach to the accessory bracket on the one ear, same as this 2006 BRM Jetta I have in front of me).

So yeah, you could put your bracket on a VERY early BRM car I guess, but you'd have to change the other stuff, too in order to make it work. The early BRMs' accessory bracket has no threaded boss to attach that far point.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 06:38   #4
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Upon further investigation, it would appear ETKA is wrong. Since this 3/2006 car here also has the F bracket. What doesn't make any sense, though, is that unless the German alphabet is different, F comes before G.

But that F bracket is clearly still the later wide stance version. Very few BRM cars have the short G bracket, because the A5 cars didn't come here until several months into the 2005 MY, and if they switched to the F bracket in June of 2005, that would mean that only about 3 months worth of cars would have had them... and only the BRM engine.

Personally, I've only ever seen TWO of these early mount BRM cars, and I regularly service a boatload of these cars. Hardly a day goes by without a BRM car on the docket here.
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 04:33   #5
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I think you have it backwards.
I Dont have it backwards
As you mentioned above ETKA Vs. Actual doesnt all ways match up...
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Change happened in June of 2005 (this is even stated in the shop procedure for toothed belt replacement).
I would usually agree with whats in print however I know better then to just take it as absolute truth....
(Im a vag "master" tech / Shop owner my self, I know the drill...)
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However, it makes no difference as the bracket needs to be moved in either case to slide the tensioner off the stud, unless you remove the stud with the tensioner, and that to me can be a bit of a pain.
It says change the BELT
Nothing mentioned about changing the tensioner or stud...
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Your picture seems strange, though, as it clearly has the F on it, but is clearly the late mount (with the long reach to the accessory bracket on the one ear, same as this 2006 BRM Jetta I have in front of me).
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This is an ETKA fail...
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So yeah, you could put your bracket on a VERY early BRM car I guess, but you'd have to change the other stuff, too in order to make it work. The early BRMs' accessory bracket has no threaded boss to attach that far point.
This was removed from a BRM jetta basic, build date 02/05
Nothing needed to change to swap to the later "G"
I tried this before posting the FS add as there is LOTS of conflicting info....
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Upon further investigation, it would appear ETKA is wrong.
My etka has conflicting info with in it for these 05/06 cars
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But that F bracket is clearly still the later wide stance version.
YES
And it has the WIDE foot print with the early part #....
IDK........
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Very few BRM cars have the short G bracket, because the A5 cars didn't come here until several months into the 2005 MY, and if they switched to the F bracket in June of 2005, that would mean that only about 3 months worth of cars would have had them... and only the BRM engine.
This is again using ETKA for date changes and we have established that doesnt work......
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Hardly a day goes by without a BRM car on the docket here.
Thats cause there JUNK.......
ALH is where its @!!!
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yes this is still for sale
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 16:47   #7
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BRMs in here for routine PM means they are junk? Hrmmm... strange way of looking at it.

At any rate, the bracket you are selling is for the later BRMs, not the early ones. And if you had an early one, you'd want the later bracket I guess to make the belt easier, but it won't do you any good because the accessory bracket would need to be changed out anyways.
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BRMs in here for routine PM means they are junk? Hrmmm... strange way of looking at it.

Im sorry,
But ANY engine that requires cam replacements as maintenance is junk
I had a bew PD in MK4 golf and Ill save the highres pics as we all know what happens inside them...
Furthermore ANY engine that has had SO many changes in such a short period ONLY to be replaced shortly there after with the newest "CR" family of engines shows me that there junk......

AND that the manufacture knows it...



AND >> For those that are VW-Audi people and not just diesel folks
Sounds very,very/same, same as the FSI-TSI story with pump followers.........

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Old March 4th, 2013, 05:19   #12
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They don't ALL need "cam replacements", except the ones that the dumbass dealers feed the incorrect 5w30 oil to.

The PD engine has been in use since 2000.

We have BRM cars in excess of 300k miles here with valve covers that have never been off. I'd say that is a pretty good engine.

The DI gassers engines also often are a result of incorrect oil. They even have a TSB about it (dealers are once again clueless about that, too... )
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