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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:52   #1
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Hello Forum Members:

Please tell me if any of you have any trouble of starting the new 2013 Passat TDI SEL. Past a several days I am having trouble with starting the car. It wont start at the first push button. It will start after five to six times hitting the button. I am taking it to the dealer. I think that it may be a disel system problem. I only have 7000 mile on it.

I love my car so far but untill this starting problem. Also one day my radio will not stay on for a long time. It was cutting off. It does not do anymore.

Hope I do not have to return my car due to the engine start!!!

Any response would be appreciative.

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Old February 11th, 2013, 13:20   #2
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Have you tried pushing the brake in harder? Some have said they need to do this to get it to start after sitting for awhile.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 13:35   #3
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There is a forum dedicated to the 2012 & 2013 Passat with a ton of information.

Does your dashboard say anything when you attempt to start and it fails?

http://forums.tdiclub.com/forumdisplay.php?f=86
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Old February 11th, 2013, 14:02   #4
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Harun,

How cold is it where you are?

How long is the delay before you press the button again?

Is the glow plug light on when you are pressing the button?

With the Kessy system, the vehicle will not start until the glow plugs have gone through the heating process (if needed).

I have experienced a few times a delayed start and the first time it freaked me out as well.

What I usually do now is get in the car, push the brake pedal, touch the starter button, then buckle my seat belt.

By that time, the glow plugs have done their thing and the car starts automatically as soon as the light goes out.

Give this a try and see if maybe that is the delay you are talking about.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 15:11   #5
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Push start in a car with glow plugs is both confusing and stupid for anyone unfamiliar with diesel vehicles .
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Old February 11th, 2013, 15:15   #6
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Push start in a car with glow plugs is both confusing and stupid for anyone unfamiliar with diesel vehicles .
On the contrary - it prevents those unfamiliar with diesels from starting the engine without first waiting for the glow plugs.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 15:22   #7
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^^^agreed...
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Old February 11th, 2013, 15:25   #8
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Push start in a car with glow plugs is both confusing and stupid for anyone unfamiliar with diesel vehicles .
I disagree.

As VeeDub said, it is actually quite helpful and beneficial to the engine.

Think about this scenario for a bit.

It is 20* outside and the driver jumps in and without thinking about glow plugs starts cranking the engine. As the engine is cranking, it is injecting fuel which is being wasted because it is not starting.

If the driver had waited for the glow plugs (or the car refused to crank until the glow plugs were cycled), the car would have started almost instantaneously.

It's not stupid or confusing if the owner would just read the damn manual. Why is it so hard for people to do this? They chunk down $30k plus of their hard earned dollars, but don't bother to read the damn book that tells them how everything works.

THAT is stupid.
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To be fair (just for the sake of it), the manual does contain a lot of conflicting or just plain wrong information.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 17:27   #10
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To be fair (just for the sake of it), the manual does contain a lot of conflicting or just plain wrong information.
On that note, why in the world doesn't VW remove the diesel info in the manual and add a supplementary Diesel manual?

The manual is poorly written at best, with smatterings of diesel only info peppered throughout. Very confusing.

I personally dont see the benefit of a pushbutton start, but if I were a newb diesel owner that hadnt RTFM and was having a delay on cold mornings I would probably think there was an issue.
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Old February 12th, 2013, 06:29   #11
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Actually, this raises a pet peave: Why didn't VW throw a copy or part of a copy of the manual on the Hard Drive in the RNS510. And, while I'm at it:

Does anyone have a source for DVD shop manuals for the B7/NMS? I've searched the web and found nothing.
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Old February 12th, 2013, 06:37   #12
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Hello Forum Members:

Please tell me if any of you have any trouble of starting the new 2013 Passat TDI SEL. Past a several days I am having trouble with starting the car. It wont start at the first push button. It will start after five to six times hitting the button. I am taking it to the dealer. I think that it may be a disel system problem. I only have 7000 mile on it.

I love my car so far but untill this starting problem. Also one day my radio will not stay on for a long time. It was cutting off. It does not do anymore.

Hope I do not have to return my car due to the engine start!!!

Any response would be appreciative.

Thanks,

Harun
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Old February 12th, 2013, 11:02   #13
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I was told by my dealership to hold the button down until it starts. Is this wrong, or does not really matter either way?
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Old February 12th, 2013, 11:04   #14
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Wrong? It doesn't help, not sure if it hurts anything. A single stab starts the process...which we now know, in the cold, is a bit delayed.
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Old February 12th, 2013, 11:52   #15
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All I do is press the foot brake and press and release the pts button. On colder days I've
Noticed a sec delay on the crank which I'm guessing the glow plugs
Are burning. But I'm also in Texas lol.
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