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Old October 31st, 2012, 13:35   #1
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Default Help - Ignition Lock Cylinder & Housing

Had to tear into the wife's car because her key wouldn't turn the ignition past the steering wheel unlock point. I've got the housing and lock off of the steering column. I can't turn the key to the "on" position so I can insert the paperclip and separate the two parts. Has anyone ran into this? I'm afraid I may be stuck buying both the housing and lock. Any help would be appreciated.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 16:30   #2
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I have an 09 Jetta and my lock was getting very hard to turn. I sprayed some silicone lube into the ignition lock assembly. It made it much easier to turn and seem to have fixed the problem.
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 10:45   #3
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Thanks for the reply. I've tried the lube without luck. I've got both parts on order, but they could take a while to come in. If any body has a remedy for separating the cylinder and housing I'm all ears.
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 12:21   #4
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According to the Bentley manual, there are two small screws on the top side of the switch housing.(edit - not sure where i saw that picture.. maybe it was a you-tube vid?) It also says to take the steering wheel off to access the plastic cover screws. Is that the way yours is?

I changed my 09 switch last week... the method is in Bentley on page 96-12. On an 09, turn wheel left remove screw, turn wheel right - remove screw, remove screw on bottom near flip lever... now take off the Bottom cover - top cover can stay on. On the bad switch, flip up and remove the black cover that is held down with the part number tag. Push out the smal elect connector. Use two 1/16" drill bits or two small and short hobby screwdrivers. By comparing location of tabs on new switch, push the drill bits or screwdrivers in between switch and body to release the latching tabs. Pull out switch ! On new switch, carefully pry up the part number label tab, it's stuck to the body in a couple of small spots, Push in new switch, stick down tab to switch housing, connect elect,,, reattach plastic ....... DONE!!

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Old November 3rd, 2012, 13:20   #5
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Thanks for the info kent. I've already got the housing off the column. I can't get the lock cylinder to separate off the housing. My switch is in good condition. I can't rotate my key to the on position which is an important step in separating them. I'm hoping someone has ran into this before and can help me out.
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 20:49   #6
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Brady, my bad - your issue in on the key side.

If the steering column lock is engaged and there is a torque on the column the key won't turn. Is your steering column in a free-play zone and not latched?
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Old November 4th, 2012, 08:17   #7
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Yes the wheel was unlocked. The key would only turn far enough to disengage the steering lock.
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Old November 7th, 2012, 00:20   #8
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Had another thought - Is the battery disconnected? If I read the manual correctly, the immobilizer (The part that locks the column) needs to recognize the key fob electronics to unlock the column lock.....
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Old November 7th, 2012, 11:30   #9
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Kent,

Only on cars with Kessy or an electronic ignition (a la B6 Passat, Touareg, or Phaeton) is there an electronic steering lock.

On cars where you physically insert the key into the ignition, once you turn the key the steering lock is physically disengaged as it is built into the same housing which houses the ignition cyliner.

In the OP's case, I believe he said the housing is completely out of the car. So electronics would not come into play here.

OP, usually when something like this happens, our techs will replace the steering lock housing and lock cylinder.

On occasion, it is the rod in the housing between the ignition cylinder and the electrical switch that breaks or jams requiring complete replacement.
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