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Old October 28th, 2012, 20:16   #1
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So i have an 06 Jetta TDI and live in Alaska. I have been looking at getting a block heater for the car. I read to look at frost-heater and that they are the best. So I looked and I like. But talking with the shop here they said that VW dose not make block heaters for the newer models and they prefer you do pan heaters instead because the aftermarket block heater might cause problems.

Anyone deal with any thing like this?
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Old October 28th, 2012, 20:37   #2
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Plenty have installed them. They work very well.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 20:51   #3
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The frost heaters are well worth the money. Here in Colorado plugging a 03 Jetta in for as little as 30 minutes make the car start much easier in temps
down to 10 F to 0F.

20 below? plug it in, or put it on a timer, for a couple of hours and they
fire right up. With a good battery, you don't need to plug the cars in down to
0F in my experience, but they start a lot easier, less cranking, quicker idling if you do, even for 30 to 60 minutes.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 22:52   #4
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Our frostheater works great. They are much less trouble than a pan heater. My guess is the shop only has pan heaters to sell you.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:34   #5
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So is the frostheater safe and why would vw not make a block heater for the newer vw's?
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:58   #6
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Our frostheater works great. They are much less trouble than a pan heater. My guess is the shop only has pan heaters to sell you.
Bingo!! Shop has pan heaters to sell/install. They have been known to cause some problems, also. Like falling off the pan and into the belly pan and starting a fire. They also don't do much except warm your oil unless you keep them plugged in all the time.
The frostheater/zerostart coolant heaters are the way to go. Couple hours and start like summertime.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 08:59   #7
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So is the frostheater safe and why would vw not make a block heater for the newer vw's?
They do sell them in Canada. The frost heater is cheaper.The frost heater also has a higher watt heater than VW does.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 09:00   #8
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So is the frostheater safe and why would vw not make a block heater for the newer vw's?
If the newer TDIs are anything like the older TDI engines there wasn't a freeze plug cast into the block to put a regular block heater in. So, they have no need to make a block heater.
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Old October 29th, 2012, 20:35   #9
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So is the frostheater safe and why would vw not make a block heater for the newer vw's?
VW doesn't make a pan heater either. Our local dealer sells aftermarket pan heaters because they are easy to install. I had the local dealer install mine (they install them on all new cars they sell), they used duct tape, and it caught on fire. I didn't even get an apology.
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Old October 30th, 2012, 21:05   #10
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So how do the frostheaters work? Are they a block of metal that heats the other metal around it or is it pumping hot fluids through the block or something?
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Old October 30th, 2012, 21:30   #11
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The Frost heater is connected inline with the water cooling system and heats one side of the water system. What happens is it heats a good part of the motor and when you crank the motor it starts immediatly and the engine gets warm water circulating immediatly. It even allows the heater to blow warm air immediatly to take the chill out of the cabin although it won't keep blowing hot for too long until the engine catches up completely heatwise.
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+1 for the frostheater.
Physically it is a (high quality) commodity electric coolant heater in an external tank... I believe the heater is from the agricultural and commercial equipment market.
Frost packages it with a bracket and molded hose and instructions, and is effective at pre-heating the coolant and oil but as observed the temp will fall upon engine start when the coolant starts circulating.
Mine is the only "mod" I've made to the car and I find it well worth the price of admission, even in "balmy boston."
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Old October 31st, 2012, 14:56   #13
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Frostheater.com.

OK Terry IS a TDIclub supporter. You are getting all this free info with NO popups or tacky ads....why we support with donations and vendors do the same thing.

W used to have a magnetic heater. 1. the would fall off and burn the plastic belly pan.. 2. VW went with an alum oil pan magnetic did not work so well there.

I have all 3 of our TDI with the frost heater. ZERO problems.

An added feature is it is located under the battery AND it gives off some heat to the battery and keeps the battery life a bit longer. I got 7 years out of my orig batt.
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It is an "in-line heater" since it doesn't go into the block as there is no plugs to fit into the block. And it heats the engine warmer then operating temps (get a scangauge II if you don't believe it). 4 hours is the sweet spot to get the engine warm and not wast added power heating the engine most have found. A x-mas light timer can take care of the timing for you.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 08:18   #15
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I like what i hear and read im digging the frostheater. One more question why is the dealership saying there aren't any thing that will fit because of freeze plugs. So where and what are these freeze plugs?
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