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November 3rd, 2011, 19:30
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Also, the vast majority of torque wrenches only measure in one direction.. I have one that goes both ways (no pun intended) for a few reverse threaded applications but that's about all I use it for.. I also use it for checking breaking torque when loosening cylinder head bolts on problem engines..
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November 3rd, 2011, 20:03
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Location: Lincoln, Mass.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btcost
you never need a torque wrench to get things loose.
those are called "breaker bars"
torque wrenches are ONLY for re-assembly. when putting nice, clean parts back together.
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Dude, in this case, you couldn't be more wrong. It's VERY important to use a torque wrench to remove the glow plugs. The maximum torque for removing 10mm glow plugs is 25 ft. lbs. Any more and the glow plug will break.
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November 3rd, 2011, 20:22
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital4n6
the main reason for not using a torque wrench instead of a breaker bar is that it could very likely throw off the torque wrench's calibration.
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Then how would you torque left handed nut and bolts, all my torque wrench's will go both ways.
The reason for using a torque wrench for removing the glow plugs is not to break them off. Don't use more than 25 foot pounds for removing them.
BUT you could still break one!!
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November 4th, 2011, 03:08
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WE need it too for the '65 Barracuda YEP LH threads on the drivers side..
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November 4th, 2011, 05:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by migbro
Dude, in this case, you couldn't be more wrong. It's VERY important to use a torque wrench to remove the glow plugs. The maximum torque for removing 10mm glow plugs is 25 ft. lbs. Any more and the glow plug will break.
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What brand of glowplug breaks at 25 ft-lbs? I will avoid purchasing them..
So far I've never used a torque wrench to remove a glow plug... I've probably changed the glowplugs on 3000 engines LOL... I can understand the need for someone who doesn't turn a wrench every day to use one when loosening them since they probably have no idea what 25 ft-lbs feels like until it breaks...
The best advice I can give is to use a 1/4" drive short ratchet and an 8-12" extension.. 25 ft-lbs is pretty hard to achieve with a 4" long ratchet...
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November 4th, 2011, 09:28
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Boston, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by migbro
Dude, in this case, you couldn't be more wrong. It's VERY important to use a torque wrench to remove the glow plugs. The maximum torque for removing 10mm glow plugs is 25 ft. lbs. Any more and the glow plug will break.
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Well seeing how my 1/2 torque wrench cost $350 and my 3/8 cost $250. I never never never use them to take things apart.
Don't want destroy expensive wrenches. Carefully use regular wrenches or a breaker when needed.
Never broken off a GP. In fact my worst broken bolt was thee turbo return on my alh. I was useing a 1/4 ratchet. And not even torquing it hard.
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November 4th, 2011, 09:45
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Between Toronto & Montreal
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TDIJetta99
What brand of glowplug breaks at 25 ft-lbs? I will avoid purchasing them..
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Beru used to have a document on their website that stated:
"Do not exceed the maximum release torque – 8mm GP-20Nm, 10mm GP-35Nm, 12mm GP-45Nm."
They no longer have the document (TI04_e.pdf) on their website... (If anyone has saved a copy, it would be nice to have access to it...
Yuri
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Originally Posted by TDIJetta99
25 ft-lbs is pretty hard to achieve with a 4" long ratchet...
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Wimp...
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