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Old October 19th, 2011, 13:35   #1
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Default Castrol Syntec 5w40 in my tdi?

Just wondering if it is ok to use Castrol Syntec 5w40 in my passat? I have heard different things as far as what is best to put in it. thanks for the clarification.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 14:43   #2
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It certainly meets the spec required by your car!

You can use just about any 5W40 sold in Namerica.

Some folks seem to favor (price and performance) the gallon jugs of Shell Rotella 5W40 sold at Wallzmart for $20.

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Old October 19th, 2011, 14:56   #3
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Just assure it is DIESEL oil.

Gasser stuff is for gassers.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 15:11   #4
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My '91 made it to 437,000 miles on it, and that poor engine spins WAY faster than any TDI, LOL....

I also used it in my '98 Jetta and my '97 Passat. I'd still be using it now except Castrol dropped the ball on the newer oil specs so we use Pentosin now.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 15:11   #5
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Just go to napa and get lubro/liqui Molly. Best stuff ever. If it's not in stock they can get it and they stock/can get Mann filters.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 15:12   #6
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Castrol Syntec 5W40 has the VW 505.00 diesel specification. It also has an API C rating, meaning it's suitable for older diesels. There are other 5W40 oils with either the later VW 505.01 specification or API CJ-4 that may perform better.

I know Beaver Falls PA.. I'm in Darlington quite often and spend the night either in Beaver Falls, Monaca, or Boardman/Youngstown. Welcome.
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Old October 19th, 2011, 15:13   #7
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My '91 made it to 437,000 miles on it, and that poor engine spins WAY faster than any TDI, LOL....

I also used it in my '98 Jetta and my '97 Passat. I'd still be using it now except Castrol dropped the ball on the newer oil specs so we use Pentosin now.

I miss my '92 1.6 TD... What do you mean Castrol dropped the ball on newer oil specs?
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I miss my '92 1.6 TD... What do you mean Castrol dropped the ball on newer oil specs?
Can't buy a 5w40 505.01 spec oil in this country any more from Castrol. Dealers switched from TXT to SLX, which is a 5w30....and the cam failures followed.

And you never could buy it from anyone other than a VW/Audi dealer, same as with the new LL03 SLX 507.00... I was even a Castrol retailer, bought 5w40 505.00/502.00 in 55gal drums from them.
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Gotcha. I had forgotten about that switch. It's interesting that VW still uses the Syntec 5W40 (502.00/505.00) for all of the gas engines in North America, considering how old the specs are on that oil. This is what they gave my sister for her Tiguan. I've never been exactly sure why VW hasn't switched to the 504.00 for gas engines when Europe supposedly has.
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Because we do not get flexible service interval systems on our cars, that's why.
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It certainly meets the spec required by your car!

You can use just about any 5W40 sold in Namerica.

Some folks seem to favor (price and performance) the gallon jugs of Shell Rotella 5W40 sold at Wallzmart for $20.

Welcome aboard, Passsattt!!
Shell Rotella T6 (5W-40) oil sold at WAL<star>MART or Walmart<asterisk> is excellent stuff and great for your Passat.

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Can't buy a 5w40 505.01 spec oil in this country any more from Castrol. Dealers switched from TXT to SLX, which is a 5w30....and the cam failures followed.

And you never could buy it from anyone other than a VW/Audi dealer, same as with the new LL03 SLX 507.00... I was even a Castrol retailer, bought 5w40 505.00/502.00 in 55gal drums from them.
To be accurate, Part# G052167M2, Castrol "Edge" Turbo Diesel Motor Oil - (5w-40) - 1 Liter, is available and in stock at University VW in Seattle, 38 in stock, and is what they will use if they change the oil on your PD. It's also available from 1st VW, min 12 liter, as well as ECS

http://www.ecstuning.com/ES1884246/ES1293501/

There are people who feel more comfortable with dealer service and not all dealers are using 5/30

I use CJ4 delvac 1 in my PD
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kato, thanks, that is news to me. And as recently as 6 months ago I sent an email to BP/Castrol USA asking them about the Edge product in 5w40, and never got a response.
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oilhammer, your welcome,
thank you very much for all the information you've given over the years
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Old October 26th, 2011, 11:48   #15
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Just got a case of this is, any dealer can get it. VAG 502.00 (gassers), 500.00 (old, old diesels, like pre-TDI?), and 505.01 (PDs). Also meets the coveted MB 229.51 spec.

The US part number on the back is 12438 and it is in a 1 quart bottle, which leads me to think you could get this at some place other than through a VW/Audi dealership channel.
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