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Old June 8th, 2011, 19:57   #46
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Thank you. The best we can do is publish (and perhaps sticky) this guy (and others if they join him).

I lost $700 on an injection pump that I believe originally got "rebuilt" by prothe. (Was sold to me by a mischievous member of the club who disappeared shortly thereafter) Also, a dozen hours of my time installing, then reinstalling pumps, and I waited in the freezing cold for more than an hour for a tow because his pump ran for all of two miles.
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Old June 8th, 2011, 20:34   #47
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Good work!

Thread moved to the vendor's forum and stickied.




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I was amazed by this thread, especially since as a long time active member of Fred's I didn't really know he was out there - and such a stunning trail of destruction.

Sooo... I did a little research, he's famous for this throughout the internet and for years.

Sooo... I tied all of the aliases I could find together using multiple sources and documented as much as I could regarding his various front's. Many of which are either dropped or lay dormant for a period before resurrection.

Here's the thread dedicated to him and all of his various known fronts: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=320500

My little contribution to the community, he may have not gotten me, but no doubt others before him might have if not for those who pointed out the pitfalls for me in the past.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 07:55   #48
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For them to say they are not responsible for damage caused by one of their parts does not necessarily make it so. Time to run this by a lawyer.
It's called consequential damage and even the OEM (audi/VW) will not cover consequential damage in the event one of their parts fails.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 08:06   #49
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It's called consequential damage and even the OEM (audi/VW) will not cover consequential damage in the event one of their parts fails.

My thinking was more about product liability. If I sell a product with a known defect, and the failure causes an injury to a person, I can expect a lawsuit.

If you sell a product with a known defect and it causes damage to a machine, it's really the same thing but damages are lower.

At least that is the thinking in my simple non-lawyer mind...
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 11:02   #50
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Essentially, you got Chinese garbage parts.
Yep, I bought A2/MKII Jetta tail lights that were junk, all scratched up and poor quality. I ended up paying more for used VW Hella units, but as you know used Hellas are better than his China junk!
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Old July 2nd, 2011, 18:45   #51
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The question is why would I want to put more parts from them in my car that already is costing me 2000$ in engine damage. Also she send me the the warranty and terms of sale statement "If a part that RE sells is alleged to have caused damages to other parts in a customer's car, RE is not responsible for those damages. RE is not responsible for damages under any circumstance or condition, even if the part(s) were installed by a professional or certified mechanic."



Yep. This is the same way I felt when it happened to me! $1100 in parts & my own labor, I'm back riding.
Don't try and save money! Buy quality parts!
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 06:51   #52
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Have an acquaintance who buys part from this guy...hans...in Matthews NC. This person apparently has not had any probs, but I wrote "hans" about a downpipe and got a very uninformative reply. so...........I found this thread. FIRST thing I think of is he's advertising "ENGINEERING" in his company name. I am a North Carolina Professional Engineer...it is illegal to use "ENGINEERING" as any sort of reference unless YOU are registered as a PE.
Thinking now about drafting a letter to the NC Board of Engineer Licensing with a request to investigate this guy. This is a genuine legal ploy to get him.

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Old August 3rd, 2011, 07:03   #53
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And, *rothenbacher* turns up no results on a license search on the NCBELS site.

However, interestingly, a whois on hansdieselparts lists his address as:

Rothenbacher, Pete prothe@wewill.com
www.emiata.com
11004 E 33rd Terrace
Independence, Missouri 64052
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(816) 694-0615 Fax --

So, the NC contact info may be outdated. However, he's still using it on emiata.com:

Rothenbacher, Peter prothe@wewill.com
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5005 Smith Farm Rd.
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 11:22   #54
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Good work!

Thread moved to the vendor's forum and stickied.

Honestly, I think it should be sticked on every popular forum on here.

Like the 101, and the different model forums... where all people will be sure to see it.
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 12:18   #55
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I suggest changing the title of the thread in the vendors section to something like PROTHE Parts or something similar. As titled now, it doesn't really raise an alarm.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showpost.p...2&postcount=47

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Old August 4th, 2011, 15:27   #56
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Add another victim to the list.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=324730

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Old August 7th, 2011, 15:57   #57
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I bought a turbo from him that lasted 1k. He was listed as TDI Parts on Ebay and this was in 2007.
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Old March 12th, 2012, 06:51   #58
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Prothe!
The guy is known for selling C.R.A.P. (Chinese Replacement Auto Parts) of dubious quality.
I am so glad I found this thread. I was just looking at buying a fuel filter as he lists them for half the price of anyone else and it shows up in Google Shopping results. I somehow knew it was too good to be true.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 12:16   #59
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This site exist for exactly this reason. I was just getting ready to get a turbo from him since i live in charlotte. Glad i decided to check him out. Another lost sale due to this site helping other owners out with their knowledge.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 12:26   #60
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Once in a while we'll get a phone call or email (Corey got a call yesterday) from someone asking if we'll price match a prothe product. We usually direct them to one of the threads here. Don't need to say anything else. People do care about price, sometimes to the exclusion of quality. My own buying decisions are more driven by convenience so often I'm willing to pay more. But I don't think that's very common.

This thread caught my eye because my Miata could use a timing belt soon due to time not miles. And I did a bit of searching for a kit and prothe came up, of course. Obviously I'm not gonna do that.
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