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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old March 27th, 2011, 19:27   #1
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Question should I replace subframe bushings?

Car is 2004 Jetta sedan with 160,000km. I'm doing a refresh of all suspension bushings except the subframe bushings. Are the subframe bushings likely to be toast? Should I order the parts and do it all at the same time? I really want make the front-end as tight as possible. Please advise!
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Old March 27th, 2011, 20:35   #2
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I still haven't figured out why they even have rubber bushings on the rear half of the subframe.. The front half is bolted solid, so they kinda seem useless..

Either way, I do a lot of bushings on mk4's and rarely ever see bad subframe bushings.. I'm putting an engine in an 02 Golf that has 300k and it has good subframe bushings.. I wouldn't worry about them if I were you..
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Old March 27th, 2011, 21:00   #3
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Don't worry about them unless you plan on upgrading to the Audi TT subframe bushings.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 07:48   #4
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Thanks guys, that's what I needed to hear. The TT bushings sound great, but at $207 per set it's a little expensive.
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Old July 9th, 2011, 08:57   #5
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I still haven't figured out why they even have rubber bushings on the rear half of the subframe.. The front half is bolted solid, so they kinda seem useless..

Either way, I do a lot of bushings on mk4's and rarely ever see bad subframe bushings.. I'm putting an engine in an 02 Golf that has 300k and it has good subframe bushings.. I wouldn't worry about them if I were you..

Thats on a stock motor and parts. When you start upgrading other parts such as nozzles, turbo, dogbone, etc, and adding more power, you will see that all bushings, including subframe, will deteriorate quicker..Im at 170,000kms and my subframe bushings need replacing. Its just my opinion that if you are upgrading all mounts and replacing busheings, might as well not half arce it and just replace the subframe bushings too.
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I didn't do my subframe yet but will with the clutch I am thinking as my brother said it makes it easier to just drop that down. I haven't had a reason to drop the sub frame down yet. That and mine look great yet. Brothers look like crap though.
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Car is 2004 Jetta sedan with 160,000km. I'm doing a refresh of all suspension bushings except the subframe bushings. Are the subframe bushings likely to be toast? Should I order the parts and do it all at the same time? I really want make the front-end as tight as possible. Please advise!

The correct answer is yes, you should replace the subframe bushings - with Audi TT parts.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 16:30   #8
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I'm running 034motorsports billet bushings in my second car, works great, no NVH change detected, mild steering improvement. That's on current car.
No last car I had one that was screwed, HUGE improvement (car would clunk).
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