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Old March 4th, 2011, 13:40   #1
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Default Best Diesel fuel!!!

Which gas station in your guys opinion sells the best quality Diesel fuel for CR TDI??

For example
1.BP
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3. Shell ETC...
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Old March 4th, 2011, 14:00   #2
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Anyone with a high turnover rate.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 14:21   #3
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The one with the most customers.

A station with few customers is either overcharging or has poor quality and turn over. Fresh fuel is good and a station that does little diesel traffic indicates it is not fresh.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 14:23   #4
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There is no such thing as best. I like Speedway. I also try to use Loves when I travel. They have diesel at every pump.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 14:31   #5
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Diesel fuel is diesel fuel. It all comes out of the same pipeline. That said; different retailers add differing additive packages to their basic diesel fuel. The problem with recommending a certain "brand" over another is that these different additive packages vary a lot from one part of the country to another and sometimes from one truck load of fuel to another. In general the major brands are probably a little more consistent than mom-and-pop type retailers - but even this is probably variable.

In short, there is no easy answer to your question. It really depends mostly on your local suppliers and the quality of the additives they add. Here in the west Chevron and Shell have pretty good reputations, but that may not be true where you live. I would recommend a major brand and (as stated above) a station that sells a lot of diesel fuel. This helps to assure that the fuel is fresh and relatively water free.

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Old March 4th, 2011, 14:56   #6
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Also.. diesel takes a loooooooong time to "go bad". It's not like gas which can go bad in a matter of days if you don't store it correctly. Gas, if stored nearly perfectly can really only expect a shelf life of about 6 months. Kept in the dark, cold, steel can with low humidity etc.

I don't know the shelf life of Diesel, but if you store it "perfectly", meaning you keep algae and water and out of it, I would suspect years and years.

Though I agree, a higher turnover location is less likely to have things like water, dirt and other crap in it.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 15:37   #7
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Diesel fuel is diesel fuel. It all comes out of the same pipeline...
Not true. For example, BP has a refinery in Whiting, IN that only produces their Premium Diesel products (per the owner of a station I used to frequent in MI). As far as I know, the refining process is one way of upping the cetane.
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Old March 4th, 2011, 15:55   #8
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TDITOM:

Not to be the back side of a donkey: BUT "premium diesel" means nothing at all.

It is just a "word" marketing types think is a good buzzword for consumers. Kind of like "New and Improved" or any of a bunch of other words that mean nothing in reality.
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TDITOM:

Not to be the back side of a donkey: BUT "premium diesel" means nothing at all.

It is just a "word" marketing types think is a good buzzword for consumers. Kind of like "New and Improved" or any of a bunch of other words that mean nothing in reality.
I agree that premium diesel signs don't always mean a different fuel, but BP does in fact refiine and sell two grades of diesel that have "premium" attributes.
Have a look here: http://mybpstation.com/fuels/diesel/bp-supreme/

I've yet to find any other major oil company publish specs on their "premium" diesel.
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Not true. For example, BP has a refinery in Whiting, IN that only produces their Premium Diesel products (per the owner of a station I used to frequent in MI). As far as I know, the refining process is one way of upping the cetane.
The Whiting refinery produces the whole slate of motor fuels and asphalt (8% 0f US supply). It is currently going through a $3.8 billion expansion to better handle heavy Canadian crude and ultimately be able to produce more gasoline.

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Check this out, complete with Cetane ratings:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=200694

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Aaron, have you seen any publication from those fuel suppliers listing those cetane specs? I've been unsuccessful in finding them on-line.
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My local BP station sell Biodiesel. I think the label show B20. Is that safe fuel to use in 2010 TDI?
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I spent a few months researching what Aaron had on various stations' cetane ratings. No one here in the Coeur d' Alene area has premium diesel over 40 cetane. Not even Chevron. Its just not here in this area anyway. What I do is go to the holiday station (they call it premium diesel for what its worth) which is the cheapest in town and has a high turn over and then add power service and call it good. Getting 46 in town after my mods and 50 on the highway going 70+ in the mountains on winter fuel so I can't complain.
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My local BP station sell Biodiesel. I think the label show B20. Is that safe fuel to use in 2010 TDI?
Do you care about warranty coverage? What does your owner's manual say about using biodiesel? Read up on the concerns and make your own decision. Lots of discussion on this site.
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