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Old December 28th, 2010, 18:21   #1
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Default 2000 tdi jetta no start?

bought a 2000 tdi jetta 5 speed.330kms.I new it didnt run.when I got it home I put a battery in it and it started so I drove it.it puffed and smoked and sputtered.(black smoke)but when I got it in 3rd gear it took off like a rocket..the timing has been checked and is bang on! any suggestions?I drove it on the highway about 5 kms..took it home and now it only runs when its on ether when its sprayed through breather.???I dont have compression tester to see if injection pump is screwed???any other ideas how to test???????..HELP!
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Old December 28th, 2010, 18:50   #2
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When you removed the hose from the intercooler to the intake did you see a clogged up everything? That needs to be cleaned.

You are not supposed to spray ether in an engine that has glow plugs I have read.

Fuel and air filters have been replaced? Fuel filter has been filled with fuel via your MityVac vacuum pump?
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Old December 28th, 2010, 19:03   #3
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Yes spraying ether in the car w/ the glow plugs in will literally cause your motor to blow up. Baaaaad things can happen, and WILL happen.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 19:59   #4
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how else do you get it to run with out ether..and I agree but I need to know if motor is ok that was a test only and a minor test at that...my main concern is its worth putting another injection pump on it.?maybe try to run a new line to see if the fuel is bad.?who knows whats in the tank?
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Old December 28th, 2010, 20:04   #5
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Why not find out what is wrong before throwing parts at it?
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Old December 28th, 2010, 20:05   #6
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I cant help much further at this point, but all I know is that thing will literally become a bomb detonating spraying ether. Wait for more responses for help. I'm not so sure if it's an ip either.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 20:06   #7
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When you removed the hose from the intercooler to the intake did you see a clogged up everything? That needs to be cleaned.
Well, it's perfectly obvious that's not the problem since it ran "like a rocket" when it got going.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 20:15   #8
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Its better to be positive than to assume
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Old December 28th, 2010, 20:35   #9
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Do you have the clear fuel line going from the fuel filter to the IP?

If so, is there fuel in the line or lots of air/bubbles? Some bubbles is normal.

If not, divert the return line from the IP to the fuel filter to a catch can. Attempt to start the car. Does fuel come out?

If you see air in the clear supply line or no fuel comes out of the return line, you need to prime the IP by pulling a vacuum on the return line. Then you need to crack the injection lines and bleed them.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 20:54   #10
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why not find out what is wrong before throwing parts at it?

i dont understand?im trying to find out whats wrong with it..so i dont throw unneccesary parts at it?
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Old December 28th, 2010, 20:56   #11
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Yes. Diagnose it and make certain of your issue before throwing parts at it.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 05:23   #12
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Well, it's perfectly obvious that's not the problem since it ran "like a rocket" when it got going.
When you are working on a car you take car of the basic things like making sure the intake is clean. Making sure the anti-shudder valve is not getting stuck half closed and on down the line. Runs like a rocket could mean it runs better than a 40 hp anti-shudder half stuck and happened to pop open but still restricted intake. Going from 40 to 60 hp could seem like a big deal.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 10:46   #13
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how else do you get it to run with out ether..and I agree but I need to know if motor is ok that was a test only and a minor test at that...my main concern is its worth putting another injection pump on it.?maybe try to run a new line to see if the fuel is bad.?who knows whats in the tank?
Some people have had better luck using WD40 which is a bit less risky.

I think Injection Pump should be the last thing on the list of stuff to think about. They are expensive and, from my knowledge, rarely go out.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 12:36   #14
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Some people have had better luck using WD40 which is a bit less risky.
Injecting ANYTHING flammable in an uncontrolled manner into the air induction is WRONG, period. It doesn't solve anything; it doesn't help finding the real problem; it isn't necessary; the engine is going to have to be able to start without it anyway; and it is DANGEROUS. Damage caused thereby may not be immediately evident.

Just don't do it.
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Old December 29th, 2010, 18:07   #15
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po380-glow plug heater circuit
p1563-quantity adjuster lower line attained
p1354-modulation piston displ.sensor circuit malfunction
p1144-mass or air flow sensor open or short to ground
p0303-cylinder 3 misfire

any suggestions what this translates to?
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