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Old November 8th, 2010, 19:47   #1
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Post 06 tdi missing and smoking / intermitten problem

2006 tdi 5 speed with 118k on the clock but noticed a miss when at idle only, shut it off and restart and it is gone but a bit of black smoke when acelerating , while driving lately, any help would be apreciated, bought the car at the dealer and bought the extended warranty on the engine, so if i can't fix it , offf to the dealer it will go.

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Old November 8th, 2010, 20:09   #2
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Camshaft???
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Old November 9th, 2010, 13:46   #3
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I would say that if the camshaft was bad it would not be intermiten, it would be constant miss all the time.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 08:26   #4
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I would check out the EGR operation as the likely culprit.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 15:30   #5
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I will check it and hopefully that will be the problem, and i'll post back 2 morrow
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Old November 27th, 2010, 16:24   #6
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tdi at vw dealer, lifter is bad and as follows so is the cam shaft, warranty company is going to check it out and let us know how much money we will owe to fix it, i paid 1500.00 for the warranty when we bought the car used WITH A 100.00 DEDUCTABLE, we will see how well this goes, 2300.00 is what it takes to fix it, it will get fixed and then S.O.L.D.!
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Old November 27th, 2010, 16:42   #7
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Why would you want to sell it? If it gets repaired use the correct oil 505.01 Vw approved. Most likely previous owner did not use the correct oil. You never know what you are buying when you buy used. If you buy new and keep it well and correctly maintained then you know condition of car. You are past due if the timing belt, water pump. tensioner, TTY blolts have not been replaced!
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Old November 27th, 2010, 21:52   #8
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tdi at vw dealer, lifter is bad and as follows so is the cam shaft, warranty company is going to check it out and let us know how much money we will owe to fix it, i paid 1500.00 for the warranty when we bought the car used WITH A 100.00 DEDUCTABLE, we will see how well this goes, 2300.00 is what it takes to fix it, it will get fixed and then S.O.L.D.!
If you have a bad lifter and cam then you also need to replace the oil pump. All those metal shavings do damage.

$2300 does sound kind of high, but then again its the dealer quoting the work.

Use a good 505.1 oil, but make sure it is a 5w40 oil,not 5w30 like VW says. Every PD car that I have inspected that has used 505.1 5w30 oil, has had cam wear. But those using 5w40 since new or low mileage, I have not seen any cam wear.

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Old November 27th, 2010, 22:15   #9
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Missing? Smoking? Sounds like a teenager...!
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Old November 28th, 2010, 10:28   #10
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Probably go 200K miles after the fix. I disagree on the oil pump.
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Old November 28th, 2010, 10:49   #11
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Probably go 200K miles after the fix. I disagree on the oil pump.
Franko6 was the one that pointed out the oil pumps to me awhile back. Sure enough every time I've inspected an oil pump on a car with bad cam wear and the nitride worn off of the lifters the oil pump needed to be replaced. I have several old oil pumps sitting in my recycle bin to prove it as does Frank. If in doubt simply pull the pump, open it up and inspect it. If all looks good then put it back on, if not then replace it.

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Old November 28th, 2010, 15:48   #12
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I too have seen bad oil pumps after cam and lifter failures. I did not do a capacity test, just noted that it was very badly scored. I would not have thought that the metal would have made it into the pump through the screen and fighting gravity.

But it did.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 12:27   #13
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I closely examined my oil filter when I was replacing my (latest) camshaft and after I found some strings of munched metal in it I opted to replace my oil pump than take the chance. My lifters hadn't caved yet either.
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Old November 29th, 2010, 15:50   #14
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