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September 13th, 2010, 15:22
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wheeling, West Virginia
Fuel Economy: 09 MB R320 Bluetec and too many ALH Beetles!
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HPFP Failures-State by State List
Member State MY
Username State MY 100 failures as of 09/15/2011 and 203 as of 09/29/2012 total of 242 to date.
Alabama 4
gprim AL 2010
patdavid AL 2011
speedeep AL 2011
Redwave92 AL 2009
Arizona 6
2009TDINEWBIE AZ 2009 first failure
2009TDINEWBIE AZ 2009 second failure
WL-ShroderGTI AZ 2009
Plus3Golfer AZ 2009
AZ-TDI AZ 2009
LazerBlueBeast AZ 2009
Arkansas 2
zoeygirl AR 2011
jchall101 AR 2009
California 59
NipomoTDI CA 2010
chadjaeger CA 2009
rjgaliano CA 2009
gborgan CA 2009
hocking CA 2009
astaal CA 2009
lovehatevw CA 2009
phathead CA 2009
proulx70 CA 2009
durundal CA 2009
funkychicken81 CA 2010
smokeskleen CA 2010
pjcan CA 2010
Phancey CA 2009
dr.freud CA 2009
SFOPilot CA 2011
JohnAlt CA 2009
chummer CA 2010
danix CA 2010
SandDiesel CA 2009
gotconsultants CA 2009
elbrowno CA 2010
Mark Jeffreys CA 2011
Screenial CA 2009
idea man CA 2010
marleyi CA 2010
joseph2012 CA 2010
fireinsyrup CA 2011
AJALE CA 2010
rinsco CA 2009
Seeuarndjimmy CA 2009
bort CA 2011
zaus60 CA 2009
Zaius CA 2009
potiron CA 2009
ne31097 CA 2011
Klystron. CA. 2011
gruder18 CA 2010
istone CA 2010
cstajduhar CA 2011
todd4218 CA 2011
rinsco CA 2009
specialagentdale CA 2010 first failure
specialagentdale CA 2010 second failure
tdi10sb CA 2010
plus1 CA 2010 Q7
plus1 CA 2010 A3
MM48 CA 2011
rmchung CA 2010
tdidanny CA 2010
Fredkap CA 2010 Q7
rosaluma CA 2012 P
tobo CA 2009
macattack963 CA 2012
ocindymom CA 2009
basspfeifer CA 2011
CraziFuzzy CA 2009
yaknuts CA 2012
510Finn CA 2010
Colorado 5
ohcaptainron CO 2010
TurboKid CO 2011 first failure
TurboKid CO 2011 second failure
Thorny CO 2011
storx CO 2009
Connecticut 4
andicame CT 2010
baggsgt CT 2012
AMT1281 CT 2009
mfisel CT 2011
Florida 20
Chadmag FL 2009
tallymom FL 2009
Knowledge FL 2009
ferland25 FL 2010
jessesrq FL 2009 first failure
jessesrq FL 2009 second failure
WFLTDI FL 2009
Whodathunkit50 FL 2010
1972SS454 FL 2009
upsbroke FL 2009
batgo FL 2009
rich! FL 2011
bcarr001 FL 2010
ajkreider FL 2011
2010TDIWagen FL 2010
ErickL FL 2009
TR10 FL 2012
Data saurus FL 2011
RdPrry FL 2009 first failure
RdPrry FL 2009 second failure
Georgia 3
house-1221 GA 2009 first failure
house-1221 GA 2009 second failure
xracer111 GA 2009
Illinois 6
jedwyl IL 2010
Kennytdi IL
vonnie77 IL 2009
marc.d.taylor. il 2009
4 TUGGIN IL 2009
rpulfer IL 2009
Indiana 1
straightliner IN 2009
Kansas 1
upsbroke KS 2009
Kentucky 1
Paramedick KY 2009
Louisiana 2
Sunglassesjohnny LA 2010
GerardS LA 2009
Maine 1
subsonic44 ME 2009
Massachusetts 7
LoneWolf MA 2009
rte2MA MA 2010 first failure
rte2MA MA 2010second failure
pcnorton MA 2011 first failure
pcnorton MA 2011 second failure
emerscape MA 2011
TDIinMA MA 2011
Michigan 2
Saltlick48103 MI 2009
icebox114 MI 2010
Missouri 1
STL-JSW MO 2010
Mississippi 2
Sharpie MS 2009
xtdilover MS 2009
Maryland 1
cankicker MD 2009
N Carolina 9
tonydec NC 2009
NC Chicklady NC 2009
y0bailey NC 2009
dustingebhardt NC 2010
lindsaysuchy NC 2010
Cosmos NC 2012
Baltman195 NC 2012
New Hampshire 1
Nickofari NH 2009
Nevada
New Jersey 8
asrnj77 NJ 2009
rcann NJ 2010
Diesel Wiesel NJ 2009
N2UADTDI NJ 2009
The_Mike NJ 2011
gregert12 NJ 2010
tdiregrets NJ 2009
JCTDI NJ 2009
New Mexico 1
VWJim NM 2011
New York 13
birkie NY 2009
swb1509 NY 2010
TDIFirstTimer NY 2010
Sunberg2 NY 2009
saaronson NY 2010
peterf NY 2009
Jack Sprocket NY 2010
vwmj NY 2009
fred1331 NY 2010
lcjjm4 NY 2010
rickdiculous NY 2010
Susang NY 2010
Colonel A NY 2009
Ohio 3
rickchip OH 2009
steelyeyed OH 2009
TooTall OH 2010
Oklahoma 2
freeman OK 2009
mandy1105 OK 2009
Oregon 3
Haz-matt OR 2009
JohnofD OR 2010
mcnzder OR 2010
mdgreven OR 2011
Pennsylvania 5
Kthackst PA 2010
Absolute Diesel PA 2010
amy1000 PA 2010 first failure
amy1000 PA 2010 second failure
kndonlee PA 2010
Rhode Island 2
tdisky RI 2009
pjcam5 RI 2011
South Carolina 2
Godstang SC. 2012
Wesleybyars SC 2009
Tenneesse 5
MonicaC TN 2010
TDI117 TN 2012
bigmacd TN 2011
tempokat TN 2011
Dave@swamps TN 2011
Texas 25
Maverick395 TX 2009 first failure
Maverick395 TX 2009 second failure
jshoutex TX 2009
catnip TX 2010
Kevin 73 TX 2011
Houston2010tdi TX 2010
carrolltoncorrado TX 2009
PlanoWagen TX 2009
ffdfrontman TX 2010
drckol TX 2009
dickey TX 2010
Tim2112 TX 2009
T Girl TX 2011
TXANN TX 2012
doug67coug TX 2009
tdininja TX 2009
giavid TX 2010
quietTDI TX 2009
JonD-2.7tDallas TX 2011
EasyT TX 2011
Moralesj TX 2011
spanish11 TX 2011
jlockhart TX 2010
tuan209 TX 2009
HozzMidnight TX 2009
Utah 3
53 willys UT 2010
RoccoRcr UT 2011
s3j UT 2009
Vermont 1
Colonel A VT 2009
Virginia 9
O2Waster VA 2009
elester12 VA 2009 first failure
elester12 VA 2009 second failure
freakMike3 VA 2009
jsds VA 2009
talbottw VA 2009
Matt Man VA 2009
BlkJetta01 VA 2009
TDITIM60 VA 2010
Washington 3
planger WA 2011
xenoice WA 2012
tdi one ton WA 2011 pending
West Virginia 3
dweisel WV 2009 Jetta Sedan
dweisel WV 2009 JSW
SCWC_WV WV 2009
Wisconsin 3
spjetta WI 2009
I love my Jetta WI 2010
sickmtbnutcase WI 2009
Canada 7
stylinmama CANADA
Heavyfuel QC CANADA 2009
BrokenTDI BC CANADA 2010
r2k QC CANADA 2010
saltspringtdi BC 2010
Cristian ON 2010
VWascension ON. 2009
State info not available 7
mystreva 2009
Chris & Theresa XXXXXX double failure
Chris & Theresa
RLS1400 2009
Kiwanda 2009
Absolute Diesel 2010
Adrenalinaddict 2010
This list is not complete and I will add members as I get time. If I missed you and you want to be added to the list. Please pm me. Same goes if you want to be removed from the list.
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September 13th, 2010, 17:15
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Dweisel,
Does this list indicate member's home states or where the failures happened? Knowing where the failures happened, if away from home in a different state, might be helpful, if that info is available.
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September 13th, 2010, 17:21
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Henderson, NV
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And they say California has superior fuel. Yet we are #1 on the list.
Then again, How many of these were due to misfuelling? Of course the owner would never fess up to that.
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September 13th, 2010, 17:27
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wheeling, West Virginia
Fuel Economy: 09 MB R320 Bluetec and too many ALH Beetles!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockwater
Dweisel,
Does this list indicate member's home states or where the failures happened? Knowing where the failures happened, if away from home in a different state, might be helpful, if that info is available.
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I know what you're saying.
Its just the State listed on their username.It would be impossible to figure out where everyone had their failure and where they bought fuel.So, the username state was used.
I guess I would have to change my State of failure to OH because all our fuel is bought in Ohio. Gee, that makes me feel a whole lot better. NO HPFP failures from WV. Go Mountaineers!
dweisel
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September 13th, 2010, 17:30
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Wheeling, West Virginia
Fuel Economy: 09 MB R320 Bluetec and too many ALH Beetles!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixmy59bug
And they say California has superior fuel. Yet we are #1 on the list.
Then again, How many of these were due to misfuelling? Of course the owner would never fess up to that.
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There will be all kinds of assumptions made from this list. Too many unknown factors to consider to draw anykind of conclusions.
dweisel
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September 13th, 2010, 18:20
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Erie, PA
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I think four states have biodiesel mandates (2% typically): Oregon, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Washington. Some of these have come on stream recently.
It appears that the only failures in biodiesel mandate states are two in Oregon. The 2009 was driven before the biodiesel mandate, unless all fuel was purchased in Portland. The 2010 may have been purchased about the time of the biodiesel mandate. I would be interested in where the 2010 Washington TDI was typically fueled.
Link to site listing biodiesel mandate states: http://www.truckline.com/AdvIssues/E...ary%202010.pdf
One could do some sort of statistical test (Chi squared?) to see whether the non-biodiesel states are significantly overrepresented. If we knew the distribution of members/new TDIs by state, that would help. Surrogate measures would by state populations or by sales per state if available.
I bet the relative frequency of failures in biodiesel states is much lower than in other states. The real value of biodiesel would be underestimated because the mandates have come in only recently, and cars in biodiesel states may have been fueled at least occasionally outside the state.
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September 13th, 2010, 18:37
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New Haven, CT
Fuel Economy: about 38 average...CT mixed driving
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California on its own is a huuuge car market. I would think the number of failures in CA has more to do with a very large number of cars sold there. Perhaps the proportion of failures relative to sales isn't much different.
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September 13th, 2010, 18:43
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Newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Suffield, CT USA
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If you have a HPFP Failure you should report it to NHTSA
Here is the link to the NHTSA website to report a complaint. There is strength in numbers and letting the NHTSA know there are more than the 7 instances mentioned in the press might help to get VW to acknowledge the issue.
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
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September 13th, 2010, 19:03
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Kansas
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I am no expert but here it a thought...
From my understanding, we import diesel from other countries that would seem plausible that it is used along the coastal areas. I know I had a customer from Kansas that had all kinds of problems with fuel in his new Peterbilt when he fueled up in Houston. From the chart, there are no failures in the actual midwest/high plains where this imported fuel is not reaching. This also matches what the largest seller in the KC area told me last week and that was that they had had no HPFP failures come through their shop. Maybe I am just "willing" my '09 Jetta to avoid any problems.
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September 13th, 2010, 19:47
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indianapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MostroDiesel
California on its own is a huuuge car market. I would think the number of failures in CA has more to do with a very large number of cars sold there. Perhaps the proportion of failures relative to sales isn't much different.
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California is a huge state, probably with more TDIs and more stations which makes the probability of some contaminated fuel being purchased more likely. Just numbers.
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2004 Toyota Solara SLE V6 (wife's), 1979 Diesel Rabbit (RIP), 1981 VW Diesel Pickup (RIP), 1986 Jetta gasser (gone).
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September 13th, 2010, 19:58
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Might be interesting to compare this list with an 09/10 TDI sales by state list. Failure ratios by state might provide some insight into regional fuel quality.
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September 13th, 2010, 21:43
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Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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32 names on the list. That is a very small percentage out of the cars sold.
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September 13th, 2010, 21:45
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Veteran Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sandwich, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArizonaTDI
32 names on the list. That is a very small percentage out of the cars sold.
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This is a very small community, here, know?
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September 13th, 2010, 21:54
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Newbie
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D-Cell_Mekanick
This is a very small community, here, know?
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I wonder what percentage of cars had a failure of HPFP in relation of car sold in the US. And I am not talkign about pumps which failed due to someone fueling up with gasoline.
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September 14th, 2010, 03:35
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Rochester, MI
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I wonder how many people came to this website BECAUSE of their HPFP failure. That might skew the numbers too.
I keep hearing numbers thrown out like 1%, etc. I think they're all conjecture.
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