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September 22nd, 2010, 00:14
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Portland Oregon
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Originally Posted by tothemax
OK target 140... Boneville ... Next year .... We'll make a TDI GTG out of it...
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Pierre, I just talked to a friend who just got back from Bonneville.... I'm starting my plans to go now..... 
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September 22nd, 2010, 02:57
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Pocono\'s, NYC
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Originally Posted by oldpoopie
Pierre, I just talked to a friend who just got back from Bonneville.... I'm starting my plans to go now..... |
Too far for us east coasters, maybe we will have to set up something in NC at Maxton, just so we don't feel like we are being left out.
But that is something that most likely needs to be started in another thread 
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September 22nd, 2010, 05:19
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Join Date: Jun 1998
Location: Sterling, Massachusetts. USA
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Originally Posted by Farfromovin
Oh jeez, 9 years later we'd be killing those numbers. I don't know how fast some of the more built up cars would reach, but I'm inclined to think in the 140's  |
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You had to be there. The TDI's did very well when you consider a 227 HP Subaru WRX turned 126 and an Audi S4 129. There were Corvettes and other high horsepower cars running no faster than what the TDI's were.
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http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=39146
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September 22nd, 2010, 10:44
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Portland/Troutdale Oregon
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Originally Posted by tothemax
OK target 140... Boneville ... Next year .... We'll make a TDI GTG out of it...
Are you Joneses?
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hehehe........ get the planning sorted out.
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September 22nd, 2010, 11:12
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Fuel Economy: great and surprisingly not bad, depending on which car
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Originally Posted by Lug_Nut
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I tried to find a 1/4mile to standing mile calculator of some sorts - i'd have to imagine even with the altitude increase that guys trapping 105+ in the 1/4 would be good to 120+ in the mile if not a bit more.
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September 22nd, 2010, 14:09
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Join Date: Jun 1998
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Salt grip, although not as bad as snow, will seriously reduce the acceleration rate, meaning you'll be 1/4 mile downrange but not moving much faster than if at 1/8 mile on sticky pavement.
At 1/2 mile on the salt you'll be doing a bit better than 1/4 mile (on asphalt) trap speed. From that point, and that 100 mph speed, you'll have only about 17 seconds to accelerate to 130 mph by 1 mile mark.
That was the goal we were trying to achieve in 2001.
The first 30 mph are easy. That last 30 mph just never gets there.
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If the quantity of carbonic acid increases in geometric progression,
the augmentation of the temperature will increase nearly in arithmetic progression.
Svante Arrhenius 1896
Cogito ergo soy (I think, therefore: Biodiesel)
Last edited by Lug_Nut; September 22nd, 2010 at 14:12.
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September 22nd, 2010, 14:58
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: PNW
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Interesting discussion... first thoughts for me were, summer, Texas, hot, 1 mile, flat out, EGT's...
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September 22nd, 2010, 15:44
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland, OR
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Originally Posted by Lug_Nut
Salt grip, although not as bad as snow, will seriously reduce the acceleration rate, meaning you'll be 1/4 mile downrange but not moving much faster than if at 1/8 mile on sticky pavement.
At 1/2 mile on the salt you'll be doing a bit better than 1/4 mile (on asphalt) trap speed. From that point, and that 100 mph speed, you'll have only about 17 seconds to accelerate to 130 mph by 1 mile mark.
That was the goal we were trying to achieve in 2001.
The first 30 mph are easy. That last 30 mph just never gets there.
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doh, I was thinking texas mile that is done on an old airstrip isn't it?
I remember the top gear where they were running at bonneville and how different the salt was compared to pavement and how hard it was getting the high v8's halo cars to turn decent top speeds. something that is easy to not think about until you drive across it the first time
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September 22nd, 2010, 16:24
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Don't they let you run for 2 miles if you are shooting for the 150 MPH mark? Why not just set up for the 150 and shoot for the 130 mark. That extra mile ought to get you up to speed if you can keep the EGT's down low enough to make the entire run at full throttle.
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September 22nd, 2010, 16:39
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Pocono\'s, NYC
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For those that are interested, these are the Texas Mile results for Greg this year. Another good reason to make a GTG in Texas next year.
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GREG
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Unlimited Street Car - Unlimited Power Ad
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127.8
128.1
128.5
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September 22nd, 2010, 18:04
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: San Diego
Fuel Economy: low: 35 high: 56 avg: 42.0
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Originally Posted by Lug_Nut
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Woops, didn't even think that the salt would completely wreck things. You're right, not the same. However, there will be lots of TDI's this year in the 260whp range. So, that scoobie with 227hp can suck on smoke LOL  I don't know, if you took a 260whp TDI and then tossed a 100shot of NOS on it... Should be fast 
--edit-- back in the day, the TDI's ran 117 with .205's, a WETT chip, and a 2.5" exhaust. I still think some of the TDI's (MAXRPM for example) could hit 140...
Last edited by Farfromovin; September 22nd, 2010 at 18:08.
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September 22nd, 2010, 19:01
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Considering the exponential relationship between speed and air resistance, it's hard to know just how fast an 'uber-modded' TDI can go. Anything over 125-130 mph becomes a real struggle. Using average numbers, it takes about 145HP just to overcome the wind resistance @ 150 MPH.
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Last edited by FlyTDI Guy; September 22nd, 2010 at 19:16.
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September 22nd, 2010, 19:11
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Coast
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Let's get a thread started with the proper title
140 mph Boneville 2011 GTG Flying mile - Who's in?
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Pierre, I just talked to a friend who just got back from Bonneville.... I'm starting my plans to go now..... |
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September 22nd, 2010, 19:28
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Totally agree... perhaps excepting the "Bone-ville" part... (Hahahaha, sorry couldn't resist...)
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September 25th, 2010, 20:47
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland, OR
Fuel Economy: great and surprisingly not bad, depending on which car
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Farfromovin
Woops, didn't even think that the salt would completely wreck things. You're right, not the same. However, there will be lots of TDI's this year in the 260whp range. So, that scoobie with 227hp can suck on smoke LOL I don't know, if you took a 260whp TDI and then tossed a 100shot of NOS on it... Should be fast
--edit-- back in the day, the TDI's ran 117 with .205's, a WETT chip, and a 2.5" exhaust. I still think some of the TDI's (MAXRPM for example) could hit 140... |
car aero and gearing is going to make just as much of a difference as all the power.
total weight gets not TOO interesting in top speed but it comes into play when running a given distance so a stripped out 250+whp tdi is going to get substantially passed that stockish wrx
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