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Old September 4th, 2010, 12:33   #31
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Look, I'm not talking about the guys who want to go fast when it's reasonable, I'm talking about the lane swerving d-bags that push people out of the way to get 2 car lengths ahead in heavy traffic.
Follow my thinking here - if you move right to get out of my way, then I don't have to swerve around you and pass on the right.
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Old September 4th, 2010, 14:15   #32
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While I am thinking of stories with me on my motorcycle . . .

There have been a couple of occasions where I pull up to a 4-way stop sign, other drivers came to a stop before I did, and they attempt to wave me through the intersection as a courtesy. Even if I make eye contact with the drivers, I sit immobile until they move on, as you cannot yield the right of way. There has been two separate occasions where an uncomfortable length of time went by where the other driver kept on waving me to move into the intersection. On those two occasions, I put my bike on the kickstand, walked over to the driver in the other car, and told them "You cannot yield the right of way. It is a basic rule of the road. Smooth flowing and predictable traffic depends on the right of way to avoid accidents. Commanding me to go first when you have the right of way creates confusion due to unpredictable traffic. YOU CANNOT YIELD THE RIGHT OF WAY!"
Similar to those of us who are cyclists, the pedal type. In Anchorage this summer, those who make rules tried to modify them so that a cyclist or pedestrian in a crosswalk who is crossing properly with the light would always be guilty if hit by a car. Yes, you read that correctly. The auto driver would NEVER be at fault for hitting someone in a crosswalk, even if the crosswalk light said it was time to cross. Wouldn't that produce some wild driving habits? Fortunately the bill got dropped.
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Old September 4th, 2010, 15:33   #33
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I was leaving a parking lot when i stopped to make a left turn, a new chevy suburban drove accross (it had the right of way), as it pulls far enough away i left off the clutch, and as i do this i hear a Crash, and a second after that i hear a burnout followed by a louder crash, as roll up to see what happened, a lady in a BMW wagon backed out of her spot without looking into this suburban, then somehow put the car in drive and floored it and knocked the X5 that was parked in front of her out of the spot completley. She got out of her car looking as if she **** herself. I laughed, and texted my buddy what happened. Scary part is that she is still allowed to drive.
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Old September 4th, 2010, 18:05   #34
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The Anchorage laws that are current are junk though.

My friend STOPS at a stoplight. 20-25 secs later a guy on a bike hauling butt slammed into the side of his Jeep. Hard enough to break off a mirror and dent the door and fender

Friend almost lost his job and house over it. The law found him 100% guilty even though he was not even moving. In other words according to the judge if I took a bike and plowed into a parked car, they would be liable.



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Similar to those of us who are cyclists, the pedal type. In Anchorage this summer, those who make rules tried to modify them so that a cyclist or pedestrian in a crosswalk who is crossing properly with the light would always be guilty if hit by a car. Yes, you read that correctly. The auto driver would NEVER be at fault for hitting someone in a crosswalk, even if the crosswalk light said it was time to cross. Wouldn't that produce some wild driving habits? Fortunately the bill got dropped.
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Old September 5th, 2010, 05:45   #35
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Ya...that law makes lots of sense....politicians

I saw a guy get creamed just yesterday.

Again...some moron kid who's driving across/through a line of stopped traffic. Who doesn't look to see what's coming in the lane just beyond....and Bam!

He gets hammered by a 3/4 ton tuck. Air bags deployed and all that...but it looked to be a relatively low impact hit and a glancing one as the guy in the truck had pretty good reflexes...braked and swerved...so it was a glancing blow. Truck seemed okay but the car's a write-off. Expensive lessen to learn...as well as messing up the day for the guy in the truck.
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Old September 7th, 2010, 06:32   #36
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Follow my thinking here - if you move right to get out of my way, then I don't have to swerve around you and pass on the right.
A: I'm not the left lane rolling road block, I'll slow down and move over to let you pass, even if I was already going 15 over.
B: I'm watching people move through traffic behind me and judging them based on that. Do you not drive through heavy 4+ lane traffic and notice that there are idiots moving 20+ mph faster than traffic causing people to slam on their brakes as they swerve through traffic? If that's not you, then I'm not blocking you. Jebuz.
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Old September 7th, 2010, 08:01   #37
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This is good fun, guys, but maybe you need to hear my Grandfather's poem:
HEAR LIDES THE BODY OF JULIAN GREY,
WHO DIED DEFENDING HIS RIGHT OF WAY
HE WAS RIGHT (DEAD RIGHT) AS HE SPED ALONG
BUT HE'S JUST AS DEAD AS IF HE'D BEEN WRONG! No Kidding.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 04:51   #38
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Do you not drive through heavy 4+ lane traffic and notice that there are idiots moving 20+ mph faster than traffic
No one in traffic moves faster than me. I ride a motorcycle about 60% of the time, and my defensive driving has to consist of being an Alpha Driver in traffic so as to avoid incompetent drivers from maiming or killing me. If I don't drive offensively I put myself in serious jeopardy. I do not, however, drive like an idiot. I stay left, I don't make unnecessary abrupt lane changes. However, when I flash high beams to pass, and people don't move right to give way, I pass right of them when I get an opening, or I pass left in the breakdown lane of a controlled access divided lane highway.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 07:06   #39
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Wow... The scary thing is you seem proud of this.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 07:13   #40
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I've got another one from this morning.

I'm cruising along in the far right lane of a four lane road.

Some old guy in a old gray/white Ford Tempo pops out of a lot or side road on the left and shoots all the way across to my lane in front of me. My wife says "look out!" and I had to slam on the brakes....to make it worse he promptly puts on his brakes and slows down.

We passed him and made our displeasure clear.

He didn't even need to be in that lane. He traveled along it for some time. So what was the big rush to get over there. Traffic wasn't even that heavy. Not to mention that that move wasn't legal.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 10:34   #41
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On my commute to work on the George Washington Parkway, there is a crosswalk for a bike/jogging path that crosses the Parkway. This particular crosswalk has stop signs facing the bike/jogging paths so the users of the path are supposed to yield to traffic careening down the Parkway (speed limit is an anemic 40 MPH, but drivers regularly do 60 MPH). I have seen accidents where a driver attempts to stop by slamming on their brakes on the Parkway to let cyclists or joggers cross, and the driver gets rear ended.

But this irks me. Cyclists and joggers routinely just dart out into the crosswalk without yielding to traffic (they have a stop sign). This happened to me this morning as I was about 40 feet from the crosswalk. I just did not bother to slow down (even though I saw the jogger just run into the crosswalk as he looked at me) and I acted as if I did not see him and just kept my speed constant. I came about 10 feet from smacking him as he crosses my path. He gets pissed off and flips me off. He has the stop sign!

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Old September 8th, 2010, 15:19   #42
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i got one. about a week ago i was getting ready to pass a semi. i was in the left lane on interstate 70 westbound in indiana (two lanes each direction) when 2 motorcycles flew up on my right. i sped up to close the gap on the semi (i was already within a car length) and the first bike shoots through. then after i was even with the semi the second drives in-between me and the the truck. if i had drifted toward the truck at all he would have been toast.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 15:58   #43
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i got one. about a week ago i was getting ready to pass a semi. i was in the left lane on interstate 70 westbound in indiana (two lanes each direction) when 2 motorcycles flew up on my right. i sped up to close the gap on the semi (i was already within a car length) and the first bike shoots through. then after i was even with the semi the second drives in-between me and the the truck. if i had drifted toward the truck at all he would have been toast.
It's called lane splitting and legal in a couple states.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 16:40   #44
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But this irks me. Cyclists and joggers routinely just dart out into the crosswalk without yielding to traffic (they have a stop sign).
A lot of idiot kids at the local college do this. I just increase my speed about 3-5 mph to really mess with their timing, and lay on the horn to get their butts moving. Again, this mostly happens with me on my motorcycle. If they are extremely lackadaisical and arrogant pedestrians, and I get close enough, I smack the frappucinos out of their hands as I ride by.
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Old September 8th, 2010, 16:45   #45
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Some old guy in a old gray/white Ford Tempo pops out of a lot or side road on the left and shoots all the way across to my lane in front of me. My wife says "look out!" and I had to slam on the brakes....to make it worse he promptly puts on his brakes and slows down.

We passed him and made our displeasure clear.

He didn't even need to be in that lane. He traveled along it for some time. So what was the big rush to get over there. Traffic wasn't even that heavy. Not to mention that that move wasn't legal.
When I am on my motorcycle, I try to time things so that if there is another vehicle turning into my travel direction, that I don't arrive side-by-side with them, to avoid this very thing from happening. I have had people do violent corrections in response to a quick "I'm here" toot of the horn.

Contributions from the last couple of days. Last night, I'm riding with a buddy, approaching a traffic light (green), we're in the right lane of two lanes in this direction and there is traffic waiting at the light to turn right (into our direction). Front car in line starts going (and my friend saw this, and changed lanes to the left!) then the driver saw us and slammed on the brakes with the nose of the car halfway into our lane. Car driver behind him saw the front car start moving but didn't see the front car stop. Bang!

BOTH of those drivers were guilty of not paying attention ... not being adequately aware of their surroundings ...

Then today's event. City traffic in Toronto; moderately heavy but moving. Chevy Trailblazer up ahead was showing signs of impatience, then ducked left towards a side street ... failing to notice the teenage pedestrian who was in the process of walking across the street that the driver was about to turn onto! The pedestrian jumped out of the way and the dumb driver stopped at the last moment but it was VERY close to being a pedestrian hit.

Pedestrians are approx 50% of the traffic fatalities in Toronto.
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