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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old July 24th, 2010, 18:39   #1
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Default 17/22 PD TDTuning.com dyno

Dyno'd the 2dr today for the first time with the PD. I brought along two ECU's and a tuner (thanks Mike!) to test. First up, I ran the RC ECU as it felt the most powerful between the two. The dyno operator told me 140/319 and I about lost it until I realized the optical pickup dropped at 2300 rpm LOL. Second run on the RC5 ECU and he said 214/323! I knew the HP was there but was surprised to see it up so high, and I was a little dissapointed in the torque. This ECU felt like the torquiest TDI I've ever been in.
So, next up was my tune I've been driving daily from TDTuning.com. 207/347 Not bad but Mike wanted to adjust the timing a bit to find the sweet spot. A few pulls later we settled on 211.95/354.07. Yes, it's smoky at WOT but it's not too shabby for a stock sized turbine Here's a graph and video

The little dip there in the beginning is more than likely either the boost isn't ramping up to 26 psi right away or it ramps, dips and then goes about it's business. Not too worried about it as I don't make it a practice to WOT at 1600 rpm in 4th On the street, I usually don't WOT until about 2500. The dyno operator used STD correction whatever that means. He told me that he set the software to recognize that it was at 100ft altitude which is about right for the area there. I saw him switch it from STD, to SAE, and the difference was only about 1-2 hp. It was also 89degF in the little dyno room
I do have to give a shoutouts to the following people:
Geoff at Colt Cams- I thoroughly enjoy'd the cam upgrade more than the R783 upgrade. Felt more of a torque increase from it, and it made the car even smoother.
Pete at DBW LLC- Thanks for the great work on my injectors. When I just threw the R783's in there at first, it didn't quite sound like it was running right at low RPM. Sounded very "diesely" like the timing was too advanced. Pete fixed me up right!
VWMikel- Outstanding tuning. Even though I kept saying that my RC ECU felt faster, you were right all along. They're the same (except yours has a bit more torque and starts/idles/drives a lot nicer).
Chris- Eff u for having more torque than me I don't know how that's possible
To finalize things up, the car runs EGT's of 1650 so it's pretty hot but manageable. It runs 26 psi most times but may occasionally hit 27. Most importantly, I'm DONE messing with power enhancements (until I blow up the turbo and then it's compound time!). My goal when I started on this car 2 years ago was 200/350 and I'm finally there
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[/old setup]212whp/354 ft-lbs14.862@96.677-Way faster than Chris [/new setup] At least 213whp, and way way faster than Chris.

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Old July 24th, 2010, 19:00   #2
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Way to go Phil... Nice to have Mike on hand and a solid way to validate your comparisons. Congratulations...
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Old July 24th, 2010, 19:26   #3
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Heheheehheh nice work man!
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Old July 24th, 2010, 20:46   #4
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The smoke looks a lot like mine at WOT. I'll be on a dyno in a week or two so we can compare numbers.
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Old July 24th, 2010, 21:10   #5
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Congrads Phil.... You will be hard to beat at the TDI Fest.... 212 whp 354 ft/lbs All I can say is WOWWWWW!! I am sure you exceeded your own expectations.

BTW, How did that 212 whp come in with some of the wild a$$ predictions made for your dyno results?
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Old July 24th, 2010, 21:11   #6
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What are you mods?
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Old July 24th, 2010, 21:25   #7
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Do you have the RC graph?
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Old July 24th, 2010, 21:40   #8
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MHA- Mods are in my profile. Basically all the bolt on bells/whistles typical with a 17/22.

TDIRacing- No, I don't have the RC graph. It had a similar dip in the torque peak (but 20 ft*lbs less), and 2 more hp from about 3800-4300 where the power bump is. Power buildup prior to the spike was a little slower as well.

Tothemax- I was hoping for 205/375. Pretty close!
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Old July 24th, 2010, 23:40   #9
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Ahh you PD guys and your minimal smoke.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 04:23   #10
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Way to Go Phil... Great results!!! But I too want to see the RC graph. And WTG Chris for beating Phil!!!

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Old July 25th, 2010, 05:23   #11
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Was the maf unplugged for both runs? Still have 02 sensor plugged in too?

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Old July 25th, 2010, 05:25   #12
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MHA- Mods are in my profile. Basically all the bolt on bells/whistles typical with a 17/22.
Ahhh, but I would say you have more than you typical bolt ons...

Colt Cam, 6-speed... (not that the 6 speed did much for you).

I would like to do that R32 box and snorkal.

Was this dyno with or without the Water/Meth?
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He did it just the way I did; strap it down and put a hurtin on it!! (At least that's what I texted him that morning lol)
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Was the maf unplugged for both runs? Still have 02 sensor plugged in too?

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The MAF was plugged in. The tune I wrote is speed density though and no MAF is required so any input from it would be disregarded.
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Old July 25th, 2010, 08:19   #15
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You say that's enough... Just wait until TDI Fest and you get to mingle with all those other power junkies, you'll want more

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