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VW MKVI-A6 Golf family including Jetta SportWagen (~ 2010+) Discussions area for A6/MkVI (2010+) Golf and Golf Wagons (Jetta Sportwagon in the USA).

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Old June 7th, 2010, 09:51   #1
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Bottom line first, don't waste your money!

The information available is quite different than the you tube stuff that I saw in April. If you are interested in Mass A/F in Oz/S then maybe you will want this... not sure what that means, unless you are a MAF. Other than that battery voltage would be the only thing you get that would be of interest, all other possibilities, 5 in all are on the MFD screen on the dash.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 13:05   #2
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I have EcoRoute on my 255WT. I tried using the 'best fuel economy,' and it does work to improve mpg, but it takes so much longer
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Old June 7th, 2010, 13:19   #3
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I have EcoRoute on my 255WT. I tried using the 'best fuel economy,' and it does work to improve mpg, but it takes so much longer
Yup, that's the software, In this instance I am talking about the "HD" which is an OBDII interface (hardware) that gives you live engine data... entirely different animal.
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Old June 7th, 2010, 13:24   #4
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When I first saw it I was so hoping for boost. But no such. I agree it is one of Garmin's "bells-n-whistles" moves which do not add to their otherwise excellent navigators.

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Old June 7th, 2010, 14:03   #5
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bruce846, have you seen the HD in person? Did you buy one? Have they started shipping the units? Last time i checked they were only taking pre-orders(or something to that effect)

I know this is out of my league, but can it be hacked to show what we want to see?
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Old June 7th, 2010, 14:12   #6
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bruce846, have you seen the HD in person? Did you buy one? Have they started shipping the units? Last time i checked they were only taking pre-orders(or something to that effect)

I know this is out of my league, but can it be hacked to show what we want to see?
Unfortunately, my comments are based on "hands on" experience, have it for 3 days, very disappointed and glad I got a deal or I would be very pi$$ed!

Not sure about hacking, (way out of my league) but it seems to work differently in my BMW X5 gasser, 9 possible options vs. 5 in the TDI.
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Old June 9th, 2010, 14:46   #7
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I have the Ecoroute HD and the 1490T - have only had the Ecoruote HD for a couple of days, so am still playing with the options and such.

So far I am impressed with it - lots of data to chew on for the auto-geeks like me...

Is it better than dedicated gauges? No.

It is quick and convenient to move from vehicle-to-vehicle, and is very inexpensive in my opinion. I will reserve decision until I have used it a bit more...
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After some investigation, I found that the info that each Mfg. spits out of the OBDII port is entirely up to them and not Garmin... VW is responsible for the limited gauge suport.

Anyone know if VAG-Com can alter these settings?
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'...limited gauge support...'

What data are you trying to view that you cannot access?
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'...limited gauge support...'

What data are you trying to view that you cannot access?
Only 5 gauges are available on my "10 JSW, RPM, volts, Mass A/F, engine load, and Speed. In my estimation fairly useless!
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Maybe I didn't word the question correctly.

I'll try again -

What specific OBD-II engine feedback data do you wish to view on the EcoRoute HD that you cannot view?
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Old June 10th, 2010, 08:14   #12
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What specific OBD-II engine feedback data do you wish to view on the EcoRoute HD that you cannot view?
I'm (obviously) not the OP, but for me I would say Boost and EGT above all. Actually the choice of several EGTs (before and after DPF) would be nice. Also the pressure differential across the DPF would be nice. All of this can easily be viewed with VCDS. There is probably more, but this is what I thought of on the spur of the moment. Why can't it be made programmable so that ANY measuring block can be read and plotted?

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Thanks Don, you are correct, however what I would like and what appears to be availalable with the HD are not the same... unless this info can be coded with VAG-COM to be read from the OBDII port.

BlackSunshine, what gauges are available in your TDI?
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Old June 10th, 2010, 08:37   #14
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Why can't it be made programmable so that ANY measuring block can be read and plotted?
I have no doubt that it is quite possible to monitor the data you desire, but let's be realistic about the capabilities of a $149 consumer product - I think it is a neat 'toy' but you are looking for data that the average consumer wouldn't necessarily use or understand. Garmin is not designing these products to satisfy the elite 1%, they are trying to build products to satisfy the other 99%.

It meets the expectations I have for what is for all intents and purposes a fun toy to play with.
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From the menu it allows me to monitor:

Intake air temperature
Coolant temperature
Throttle position
Engine load
Intake manifold pressure
Charging Voltage
Mass airflow rate
Timing advance
RPM
Speed

I can agree that these are not the utmost important measurements to monitor, but it certainly provides some entertainment while commuting 100+ miles per day....
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