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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old March 16th, 2010, 15:13   #1
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Default What weight Flywheel are you using with South Bend Clutch?

Hi all,

I am looking to buy a South Bend Clutch soon, but would like to minimize the shudder coming from the clutch. Would 21lb do this, or is 17lb the best option?

Any advice welcome.

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Old March 16th, 2010, 15:14   #2
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I'm using the stock weight SMF.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 15:22   #3
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I'm using the stock weight SMF.
Thanks, so do you get any shudder?
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Old March 16th, 2010, 15:24   #4
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I am running that exact setup...........no chatter and stock pedal feel. you won't be sorry.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 15:29   #5
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Does the kit have everything I would need to have it fitted?
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Old March 16th, 2010, 15:41   #6
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Thanks, so do you get any shudder?
Shudder when?
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Old March 16th, 2010, 15:47   #7
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I have SB 20 lb fly wheel. Standard feel, slight judder when cold, but thats it.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 15:55   #8
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Thanks guys
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Old March 16th, 2010, 16:48   #9
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I'm using the stock weight SMF.
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I am running that exact setup...........no chatter and stock pedal feel. you won't be sorry.
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Stock re-surfaced flywheel. No shudder. Pedal pressure is near stock but pedal is closer to the floor and engages with less pedal travel. It is easy to get used to and fine for my daily driver.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 17:11   #10
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run a stock oem flywheel G60 or 1z. Be careful of chinese knock offs that some vendors used to sell. unbalanced garbage. no timing mark...

these oems are aval. cheap, ask around.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 17:23   #11
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Stock G60 style from Dieselgeek, I recommend etching or centerpunching the TDC marks before install IF THEY ARE LASER ENGRAVED. This is due to the inability to see the marks when doing a timing belt at a later date due to rust... Trust me on this.... Running a SBC Stage 3, it chattered a bit louder as it got older but it could have been the clearances in my transmission going due to grenaded 5th gear particles... say 40k miles on the clutch plenty of meat on both sides though the clutch disc retainer started cutting into the clutch springs a little, not as bad as the OEM G60 setup when I removed it
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Old March 16th, 2010, 17:48   #12
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I'm running a stock weight SMF with an SBC #3. It feels like stock to me & there is no chatter.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 18:11   #13
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Stock G60 style from Dieselgeek, I recommend etching or centerpunching the TDC marks before install IF THEY ARE LASER ENGRAVED. This is due to the inability to see the marks when doing a timing belt at a later date due to rust... Trust me on this.... Running a SBC Stage 3, it chattered a bit louder as it got older but it could have been the clearances in my transmission going due to grenaded 5th gear particles... say 40k miles on the clutch plenty of meat on both sides though the clutch disc retainer started cutting into the clutch springs a little, not as bad as the OEM G60 setup when I removed it
can you clarify "the not as bad as the G60 setup"?
nobody makes a better flywheel than using an OEM solid wheel, the clutch is your choice. These vendor "billet" deals are not made to the quality specs as the original...and guess what? the oems "used" can be found cheaper.. a 1z flywheel is the same, your just not paying the G60 price for the name!!
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Old March 16th, 2010, 20:11   #14
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i have the 17lb flywheels that came with the sbc 3 kit . and there is more revs needed in forst to get moving and more chatter tahn stock when clutch is out . so its another vote for oem stock 20-lb g60 flywheel . honestly the difference in gear change and revability is not worth the trade off in my opinion . you do get used to what you drive but i would use a stock g60 one if i did it again
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Old March 16th, 2010, 23:30   #15
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Yeah, I was gonna get it from id parts, along with a short shifter, any thoughts on the short shifters?

Also this is for the UK guys - Would the flywheel be cheaper if i bought from the UK - from what you guys are saying it is just a standard G60 flywheel right?

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