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Old February 11th, 2010, 14:23   #1
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After a day of deliberation, I decided to take a moderate repair track and will install another TC and ring gear unit in my car.
Any consensus as to new or used?
Does anyone have one for sale to fit my 02?
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Old February 11th, 2010, 14:25   #2
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Just gotta R&R the trans, pretty straightforward job. Pinch off the coolant lines to the ATF cooler and you won't lose much coolant.

Be sure to only use the same converter you took out, they are letter coded.

They are not cheap new.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 15:13   #3
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Just gotta R&R the trans, pretty straightforward job. Pinch off the coolant lines to the ATF cooler and you won't lose much coolant.

Be sure to only use the same converter you took out, they are letter coded.

They are not cheap new.
OH: Thanks for the heads up.
Where is the letter located. I assume the pan must be off to see it?
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Old February 11th, 2010, 15:17   #4
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OH: Thanks for the heads up.
Where is the letter located. I assume the pan must be off to see it?
Would the vin# identify the letter?
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Old February 12th, 2010, 13:41   #5
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It is on the converter, but the dealer should be able to decipher from the VIN. I think all the diesels will use the same one.
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Old February 12th, 2010, 13:45   #6
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After a day of deliberation, I decided to take a moderate repair track and will install another TC and ring gear unit in my car.
Any consensus as to new or used?
Does anyone have one for sale to fit my 02?
PM if you do.
Thanks.
I have 02 golf , removing soon. let me know
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Old February 12th, 2010, 14:39   #7
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Dealer wants big $ for new and aftermarket is also pricey.
With 125k on the trans would a good used unit of comparable mileage be the more cost effective course?
How often does a TC fail in these cars?
Mine still functions but the ring gear is NFG so go figure.
What do you think.
I plan to keep the car and get a 5 speed swap when a donor is available.
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Old February 12th, 2010, 17:33   #8
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Check with Ken, here's the link FS: Torque converter
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Old February 13th, 2010, 17:07   #9
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What can fail in a torque convertor?
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What can fail in a torque convertor?
The internal clutch seal can bleed over, causing the lockup function to not work. The stator can become warped from heat and get out of balance and self destruct and send schrapnel throughout the transmission, the bushing can wear out and cause the convertor to chatter, they can get out of balance and cause a vibration, they can get a worn spot in the sealing surface and leak ATF.....
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The internal clutch seal can bleed over, causing the lockup function to not work. The stator can become warped from heat and get out of balance and self destruct and send schrapnel throughout the transmission, the bushing can wear out and cause the convertor to chatter, they can get out of balance and cause a vibration, they can get a worn spot in the sealing surface and leak ATF.....
You are such a ray of sunshine. LOL
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Old February 15th, 2010, 04:46   #12
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You are such a ray of sunshine. LOL
He asked. That was a generic list of possible failures, not VAG/Sachs specific.


FWIW, I have seen very few TC failures in these cars, and in the OP's case it was the ring gear that is tooefed.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 10:23   #13
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I've got a good one if you want it...
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Old February 15th, 2010, 15:38   #14
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I can't remember if the ring gear is serviceable on the 01m or not. Anyone know ?
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Old February 15th, 2010, 17:37   #15
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It is welded to the TC
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