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VW MKVI-A6 Golf family including Jetta SportWagen (~ 2010-2014) Discussions area for A6/MkVI (2010-2014) Golf and Golf Wagons (Jetta Sportwagon in the USA).

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Old January 10th, 2010, 07:41   #1
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Default Do the 2010 Golfs have engine block heater?

My Golf comes with the OEM installed socket on the left side of the front bumper and I found a cable matching the unique socket in my spare tire compartment. But there's no mention of any block heater in the thick manual. When I called I asked the dealership what is the cable and socket for, a guy told me it's for block heater.

If it is block heater, how much time does it need to be plugged in, and does it turn off on its own?

I realize that the socket could be used even for coolant heater setup, I just find it weird that the manual doesn't mention anything about a block heater ...

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Old January 10th, 2010, 15:16   #2
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Coolant heater and block heater are just different terms for the same thing. Both heat the coolant. Look for "engine coolant heater" (I think) in the 1st manual section and it will point you to to manual with the description.

Not sure how long it takes to heat up. If it's pretty cold -15C or below I'll plug it in before I go to bed for work the next morning. So far cold starts with or without the heater have been smooth. -20 or so coming home from work one day was the coldest and it started smoothly ... a wee bit noisier than normal, but no drama.
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Old January 10th, 2010, 16:27   #3
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I don't think theu are the same at all.

I thought all VW cars had the heater which heats the oil belly pan. Some people buy the additional coolant heater. The guy from the dealer told me that of course I do not have the coolant heater (I didn't pay extra to have it installed) so he told me it's for the belly pan heater.

So, do the stock 2010 Golf models have any heater installed at all? Sorry, but it's not obvious to me from your reply.
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Old January 10th, 2010, 16:50   #4
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Not in the US.

Canada-Only the 4 door Golf TDI and Wagon TDI Comfort and Highline models have it. The 2 door models do not.
I'm only reading the order guide, but it is referred to as an engine block heater not an inline coolant heater.
The block heaters go in a freeze plug on the engine block itself, and heat the coolant in the engine, and by default-- the oil in the engine block as heat transfers throughout the engine block itself.

The coolant heaters that many ppl are familiar with are in-line coolant heaters which require cutting a radiator hose or swapping one hose for two shorter hoses and clamping the hoses to the heater itself.

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Old January 10th, 2010, 18:27   #5
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On a side note...
Be careful with the after-market coolant heaters....

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=269620
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Old January 11th, 2010, 09:19   #6
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Not in the US.

Canada-Only the 4 door Golf TDI and Wagon TDI Comfort and Highline models have it. The 2 door models do not.
I'm only reading the order guide, but it is referred to as an engine block heater not an inline coolant heater.
The block heaters go in a freeze plug on the engine block itself, and heat the coolant in the engine, and by default-- the oil in the engine block as heat transfers throughout the engine block itself.
Yeah, but the thing is that my manual says nothing about block heater, only mentions coolant heater. athe the same time VW provides nicely installed bumper plug and a cable.

I believe it is a block heater I have in my car, but it would be nice if the manual confirms that, instead it bring more confusion into it.

I tried to locate a fuse for the heater. I thought if there's a heater it will have it's own fuse, but the manual lists only some of them, not all? I am not sure if there's a full diagram on the fuse cap inside.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 09:51   #7
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OK, I was really curious about it, so I called the dealership again (since the first guy didn't sound convincing at all, plus was contradicting the manual ..) and got hold of a service dep. guy who actually knew.

It is confirmed that 2010 Golf TDI hatch Highline in Canada does come with the inline coolant heater installed from the factory. I assume the same goes for the wagon.

So it finally makes sense.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 10:09   #8
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I looked for this on my 2010 JSW, didn't find it. Did they delete this option or did I not look hard enough
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Old January 11th, 2010, 11:10   #9
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You probably don't have the Canadian model, therefore you probably don't have one.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 13:36   #10
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OK, I was really curious about it, so I called the dealership again (since the first guy didn't sound convincing at all, plus was contradicting the manual ..) and got hold of a service dep. guy who actually knew.

It is confirmed that 2010 Golf TDI hatch Highline in Canada does come with the inline coolant heater installed from the factory. I assume the same goes for the wagon.

So it finally makes sense.
That's a really good news!
I thought it was just an oil pan heater or something like that...
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Old January 11th, 2010, 16:43   #11
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That's a really good news!
I thought it was just an oil pan heater or something like that...
Me too, but I was increasingly suspicious when found the plug in the bumper, cable in the truck and section in the manual talking about coolant heater.

I just have to test it now, that the parts are really there ... LOL
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Old January 11th, 2010, 17:17   #12
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Glad we finally figured it out.
I think VW needs to change the term on the order guide to 'Coolant Heater' instead of Block Heater.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 19:28   #13
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Yeah, but the thing is that my manual says nothing about block heater, only mentions coolant heater. athe the same time VW provides nicely installed bumper plug and a cable.

I believe it is a block heater I have in my car, but it would be nice if the manual confirms that, instead it bring more confusion into it.

I tried to locate a fuse for the heater. I thought if there's a heater it will have it's own fuse, but the manual lists only some of them, not all? I am not sure if there's a full diagram on the fuse cap inside.
The block doesn't have freeze plugs therefore there's no place to put a "block" heater. The factory coolant heater plumbs into a coolant line just like the aftermarket ones. It's made by Calix, and doesn't have a fuse, that function is performed by the circuit breaker in your house. It's hard to put a 120v fuse in a fuse block designed for 12v accessories.

Do you have a 2010? Your profile doesn't say. I'd like to know what the bumper plug looks like and if it's possible to retrofit it to a US JSW.
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Old January 11th, 2010, 20:28   #14
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There it is (not my car):

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Old January 12th, 2010, 09:09   #15
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Excellent. It even fits with foglights, unlike the mk5 version. Is that a hatchback or wagon? Anybody know if the parts are the same?
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