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Old October 22nd, 2009, 20:37   #1
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I'm going to be buying an 03 TDI beetle that overheated and was told engine bad. I can get a local engine for $1100 but its got like 180k miles on it. Anyone know where I can get a rebuild kit for this engine? I'd rather spend a little extra and get engine rebuilt but I can't find a kit.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 20:55   #2
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most just swap the engine with a used 1. If you want to splurge, there are a bunch of vendors who will happily sell you a new 1.

The problem with rebuilding *any* overheated engine is that you don't know the extent of the damage. If you're lucky, it's only the head gasket, but it could also be a cracked head or worse.... it's a can of worms!!!
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 21:35   #3
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I know someone who can rebuild the engine for me I just would need a kit with bearings, rings, sleaves etc. I can send the head to a machine shop or just order a rebuilt one. I just don't know a good vw parts site.
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Old October 22nd, 2009, 23:04   #4
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I just don't know a good vw parts site.
www.tdiparts.com
www.boraparts.com
www.metalmanparts.com
www.worldimpex.com
www.1stvwparts.com

...among others which are escaping me at the moment. User Franko6 is also an excellent resource and can get you any engine parts you need. Send the head to him and he will go through it or exchange it for one of his rebuilt heads. His work is top-notch, prices are very fair, advice is free and he knows what he is doing. Every head that leaves his shop is perfect. Don't go the "local machine shop" route, too much to go wrong with inexperience. I went that route and paid the price. Frank fixed me up right though and my car runs great. No website, but payment is easy via Paypal or by sending him a cashier's check.

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But personally, I would jump on that used engine. Throw in a cam and set of lifters (very reasonable) and a new timing belt kit and that engine will be ready to go for another 200k miles or more.
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 08:04   #5
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Thanks whats he charge for the head job, or exchange. I guess I can just ask him
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 08:58   #6
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I think for the head alone it is in the $700 range, but you would have to contact him for current pricing. He's just a phone call away.

You will find no cheaper place for rebuild or reassembly parts, Frank is the man and has everything you need.
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 11:27   #7
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I think for the head alone it is in the $700 range, but you would have to contact him for current pricing. He's just a phone call away.

You will find no cheaper place for rebuild or reassembly parts, Frank is the man and has everything you need.
I just sent a head to him yesterday. I bought a project car w/TB broken, so there is some head "damage". Mine is going to run more than $700, but from all accounts it will be like new.
Head bebuilt, complete install parts/gaskets, new nozzles installed/balanced, TB kit: estimate $1400. Great guy.

If the history on that used engine is known, thats the way to go, for that $$. IMHO
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 11:41   #8
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before you rebuild you should assess the damage to the engine. This will require time and money, but will save you time and money in the long run. There is no rebuild kit that will cover everything
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Old October 23rd, 2009, 12:14   #9
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If I ever buy a salvage yard engine, the first thing I do is ask for the return policy. "No Refunds" means "NO DEAL!". Then I take the head off and inspect. If the cylinder walls don't look good, I return it and save the time installing a bad engine. 180k is not particularly junk, but a lot of bad can happen in those miles.

Pulling the engine is a bear... not much time is lost doing some inspection. There are two reasonable approaches. Like I said, pull the head and look at the cylinder walls. If they are good, check the #1 rod and main bearings. The bolts on the rods and mains are not reusable (torque to yield), but if there is no overheating of the bearings, the only problem you have is a blown head gasket. Fix the head. It takes a rather severe situation for these blocks to be damaged in an overheat situation.

The average 'overheated' head is usually less expensive to rebuild because you usually don't have bad valves. As long as the cam journals are good, it's very straighforward.

I have comprehensive rebuild kits, which I can tailor to your needs. I have every nut, bolt, screw and washer, timing belt kits, pistons, rings, blocks, oil pans... a one-stop shop.

That includes matching bent rods for weight and length, balancing rotating mass, long-block and short block assembly and machining services. And of course, cylinder head work.

I also handle injector service. Flow-rating nozzles in matched sets makes improved performance.
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Old February 27th, 2011, 18:17   #10
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does anyone sell a overhaul kit?? i have a 97 tdi runs fine but i wanted to ovehaul it while the getting is good/ it has almost 400k
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Old February 27th, 2011, 18:44   #11
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autohausaz.com is a good place to shop!

Kit? Well, just sit down, make a list of what you want to replace! Then order those parts!
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