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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old August 19th, 2009, 20:32   #46
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TDI Convert - Thanks for the info. I kind of like the looks of that.
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Old August 19th, 2009, 23:04   #47
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You go there too! I would like to tow my sand rail behind my NB, but I am not sure if the car can do it. I would have to build a custom T trailer to keep the weight off the the ball. I think on the NB you can only have like 200 pounds on the ball.
I do go there too! It's a fun place but I much prefer Wellsville in eastern ohio. Much larger and not so muddy. You shouldn't have any trouble towing a sandrail with a dolly type trailer. I towed a 2 seater from Logansport, IN to Lima, OH with no problems at all. I would definitely suggest stock 5th gear and a 15 or 17 based turbo though. With the stupid 65mph speed limits, my .658 5th, and my big turbo, the engine wasn't happy at all at ~1800rpms in 5th. It was much happier at 2700rpm in 4th and was only pushing 4lbs of boost with 900* egts. I averaged 30ish mpg. I think it would've pulled it just fine with a stock 5th though. The .658 is awesome for highway if you're not towing anything heavy. But that's why I'm doing a 6 speed swap; best of both worlds .
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Old August 19th, 2009, 23:09   #48
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Well then, I guess I better get going then on a trailer before the seasons over.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 07:14   #49
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FUB - The trailer IS nice. It has slots so you can position the tie downs anywhere on the trailer, even on the side rails. My buddy borrowed the trailer and the ATV to take to Sturgis, SD earlier this month. The ATV will fit sideways on the trailer, and the bike fit front-to-back behind it. The trailer is really light for it's size.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 13:07   #50
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Well I think I've got you all beat...

How about a 3200LB popup camper behind my B5.5?















The car has airbags which keeps it level with the 300lbs of tongue weight.

The car handles the trailer quite well, but you do need to be careful.

21-24MPG is my average towing...
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Old August 20th, 2009, 15:13   #51
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Newguy, where did you get your airbags and how did you install. I am interested.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 15:37   #52
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Summit Racing... They were NOT for a Passat... I think they were the front airbags for an older 2wd chevy truck.

It will take a little searching on the TDIClub to find the part # if you want...

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Lift the car up and SECURE it with jackstands
Squeeze all the air out of the bags and put the little cap so they stay "empty"
shove the bag inbetween the coils (a little tough)
pull the cap and let the bag inflate
run the air lines to where you want!

presto - you are done!
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Old August 20th, 2009, 16:16   #53
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Well I think I've got you all beat...

How about a 3200LB popup camper behind my B5.5?




Cripes that's a big load! I think you definitely take the prize so far. What are the published towing weight limits for the Passat wagon? Are they they same as the Jetta?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 16:26   #54
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We just bought this used trailer today. Not sure of the exact weight but probably about 1,000 pounds, with a tongue weight maybe around 80 lbs. It's a combination motorcycle hauler and camping trailer that was home-built on a cargo trailer frame. It has two bunks that flip down in back with a rear loading ramp door for hauling motorcycles or whatever. We plan to use it for camping and general hauling. I plan to add a couple windows in the sides for ventilation. We were going to get a teardrop camping trailer, but decided on something like this because it can do more. I'm sure the taller profile will hurt mpg, otherwise it seems easy to tow. Hitch on the car is a Curt brand that I installed over the weekend.



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Old August 20th, 2009, 18:04   #55
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Home built motorcycle trailer with storage box, tools, etc. Storage box holds tires, canopy, front and rear paddock stands for the bike (race bikes don't have sidestands and can't stand upright on their own), camping stuff, etc.



Trailer weighs about 600 lbs. Loaded with two bikes plus gear it's around 1600 lbs. Tows fine.

It doesn't have trailer brakes, but I wish it did, and this upcoming winter's project might be something like that.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 18:10   #56
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Summit Racing... They were NOT for a Passat... I think they were the front airbags for an older 2wd chevy truck.

It will take a little searching on the TDIClub to find the part # if you want...

presto - you are done!
There is a reason they don't make them, because its unsafe to pull that kind of weight with a car!
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^ Just FYI, the european versions of a good many of VW's cars are rated for towing 600 kg without trailer brakes or 1200 kg (2640 lbs) with trailer brakes. I know my '96 Passat was. This is beyond the official rated capability of standard North American hitches and the tongue weight is also beyond what is allowed on those hitches for those cars, though. So, as long as the conditions are met and you have the right hitch, it can be "safe" to tow that much, and in europe you see cars towing trailers all the time. "Legal" is of course quite another matter.

I've been pulled into a MoT inspection station with my trailer with two bikes on it. They sent me over the scale and checked that the brake lamps worked, and sent me on my way, because the trailer weight was within the capacity of the hitch.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 02:16   #58
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Cripes that's a big load! I think you definitely take the prize so far. What are the published towing weight limits for the Passat wagon? Are they they same as the Jetta?
3960lbs with brakes... per the UK specs for this car.

Gotta love it!

Too bad I sold the popup and bought a 39' diesel pusher motorhome... now I tow the PASSAT behind the motorhome... LOL

I've got a tow dolly and have dragged it over 4000 miles this year... Grand Canyon and lots of other fun places!





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Oh, and YES my wife drives the motorhome!

As for the passat, I was overweight on the tongue, but I kept a very close watch on it.

The Airbags made a HUGE difference and for anyone that tow's I would highly recommend them.

Take a look here at the towing ratings...

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/pa...ngines/towing/

http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/#/new/go...ngines/towing/

The new Jetta Wagon with a TDI is good for 1399KG with a manual transmission! 3084lbs for us 'mericans

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There is a reason they don't make them, because its unsafe to pull that kind of weight with a car!
Naaa... lack of demand...
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