Follow my 2003 ALH Project! - Page 3

Joe TDI · April 10th, 2009, 02:36

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Originally Posted by keggo

Joe, I hate you.

Kidding. I wish I could have all these things for my car... hehe

I was only able to do it because I got some really expensive parts used at a great price....

11mm pump, PD150 IM, 2.5" race pipe, PP502's, VR6 Air box, 3" OMI, EuroJet SMIC..... If I had to buy those parts brand new, I'd never have been able to afford this project....

I lucked out and caught somebody on the forums returning their TDI to stock and selling the barely used performance parts... I took em all...

keggo · April 10th, 2009, 03:57

That's really awesome! I'm just getting done with the TT brakes... so maybe I'll be able to afford a turbo next year... lol

Seriously though, I'm really excited to see what your numbers will be! Congrats!

IndigoBlueWagon · April 10th, 2009, 06:29

I just discovered this thread, and will be watching. The setup you're putting together is great. I now have about 35K on something very similar and it's still a blast every time I nudge the accelerator.

Joe TDI · April 10th, 2009, 15:19

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Originally Posted by IndigoBlueWagon

I just discovered this thread, and will be watching. The setup you're putting together is great. I now have about 35K on something very similar and it's still a blast every time I nudge the accelerator.

Yea, I'm hoping to put up dyno numbers close to what you have with IBW...

You have 35K with your set up and you drive to the track, race on the track, then drive home from the track.... I don't plan on doing much racing.... sounds like my new setup will last a long time without many problems....

btcost · April 10th, 2009, 16:39

I would wait on the 3 -bar until after/during tune. it will make your current tune over shoot by 6+ PSI.

put in everything but. . . and enjoy. I was really surprised by how much a difference the 17/22 made. it was equivilant to the difference nozzles make. (all other things remaining the same that is)

enjoy!!

Brian

Farfromovin · April 10th, 2009, 16:52

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Originally Posted by Joe TDI

Would this work?
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/produ...771ec4fa640a80

This would go from the 2" upper intercooler pipe onto the 2.5" race pipe...
I'm hoping it can be made to work....

I still can't see using a race pipe smaller than 2.5" on that PD150 IM.

I think the 2.25" is a good match personally. That being said, if your intent on making the 2.5" work, you can pm tdikook here. He is using one himself and had to use a couple adapters. That link you posted looked like it would work, if it's not too short.

Farfromovin · April 10th, 2009, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Joe TDI

Yea, I'm hoping to put up dyno numbers close to what you have with IBW...

You have 35K with your set up and you drive to the track, race on the track, then drive home from the track.... I don't plan on doing much racing.... sounds like my new setup will last a long time without many problems....

Just my humble opinion, don't get caught up in numbers. If you post great numbers (like 200), there will be people who say your dyno was crap and inaccurate. If you post up low numbers (170), well, I guess you had either an accurate, or a conservative dyno LOL. Either way, dynos vary by at least 10% so your looking at a 10-20hp swing from one brand/location to another. When you get up there in bolt on's, that much of a power difference is like $2000 worth of parts LOL. Just enjoy the power (and the mileage) is what I'm getting at and don't get too wrapped up in numbers.

mojogoes · April 10th, 2009, 17:20

Lol deleted my BOB.

mojogoes · April 10th, 2009, 17:21

So Joe if you make 230hp you do realise its only 208hp really don't you

Joe TDI · April 10th, 2009, 17:27

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Originally Posted by Farfromovin

Just my humble opinion, don't get caught up in numbers. If you post great numbers (like 200), there will be people who say your dyno was crap and inaccurate. If you post up low numbers (170), well, I guess you had either an accurate, or a conservative dyno LOL. Either way, dynos vary by at least 10% so your looking at a 10-20hp swing from one brand/location to another. When you get up there in bolt on's, that much of a power difference is like $2000 worth of parts LOL. Just enjoy the power (and the mileage) is what I'm getting at and don't get too wrapped up in numbers.

Planning on using the same dyno, I as well as Peter, used at Dent Sport Garage... That will give me a great idea of what I will have added.....

I'm not wrapped up in the numbers much.... very curious as to the kind of power it will make on that particular dyno, but other than that, it's not hard to forget about numbers and just enjoy the power & mileage/range ....

Not trying to compete with anybody here, just trying to get a little more passing power.

TDIJetta99 · April 10th, 2009, 20:30

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Originally Posted by btcost

I would wait on the 3 -bar until after/during tune. it will make your current tune over shoot by 6+ PSI.

put in everything but. . . and enjoy. I was really surprised by how much a difference the 17/22 made. it was equivilant to the difference nozzles make. (all other things remaining the same that is)

enjoy!!

Brian

Mine doesn't overshoot at all with the 3-bar.. I was able to remove my boostvalve completely after I got my vacuum issues straightened out.. Mine doesn't spike AT ALL, even if I just stomp on it from about 2000rpm.. It'll shoot up to 28psi and stay there, sometimes 29psi, but it never spikes.. Even at 28psi it smokes quite a bit and my EGT goes through the roof rather quickly.. If I put the 2.5-bar back in it smokes even worse (think modded cummins) and EGT goes up even faster..

That's my current issue, the EGT.. I can't get from a standstill to 80mph without hitting 1600 if I'm really standing on it.. If I reduce the fueling enough to not have an EGT problem, it has less power than with the 10mm and PP520's.. I still had the EGT issue with the old setup, but I figured the additional air from the hybrid would help... Nope..

TDIJetta99 · April 10th, 2009, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Farfromovin

I think the 2.25" is a good match personally. That being said, if your intent on making the 2.5" work, you can pm tdikook here. He is using one himself and had to use a couple adapters. That link you posted looked like it would work, if it's not too short.

That adapter should work well.. We'll have to mess with the upper intercooler piping anyway due to the intercooler being modded to fit a beetle.. If not I'll make my own piping to go from the intercooler outlet to the racepipe. If I have to make it, it'll be 2.5" all the way through..

btcost · April 10th, 2009, 20:36

funny I have some overboost issues. but I think that they are caused by sticky/gunked up VNT vanes. I tried to dyno 2 weeks ago, but a month of city driving was making me WAY overboost at WOT. . like pegging gauge overboost.

I don't have a EGT still. . . I really need to get one. but I also do not Stay on it for long. . . keep running out of road!

Brian

TDIJetta99 · April 10th, 2009, 20:42

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Originally Posted by btcost

funny I have some overboost issues. but I think that they are caused by sticky/gunked up VNT vanes. I tried to dyno 2 weeks ago, but a month of city driving was making me WAY overboost at WOT. . like pegging gauge overboost.

I don't have a EGT still. . . I really need to get one. but I also do not Stay on it for long. . . keep running out of road!

Brian

Wow, I think you'll be surprised how fast the egt climbs.. I'll shoot you a short video of it tomorrow with mine.. I can be cruising along in 4th at 50mph, which usually lands about 600EGT or so, then stand on it and I don't even get to 90mph and I'm already maxed out at 1600 and have to back out of it.. Usually less than 8-10 seconds from any speed/rpm and I have to back down. I really can't race anyone or even get all the way down a 1/4 mile without maxing out..

Joe TDI · April 11th, 2009, 02:03

My EGT gauge is in the mail.... I'm curious to see how fast mine climbs now with the 11mm & PP502's.... P

As far as boost spikes with the 17/22, none at all.... The boost gauge goes straight to 15PSI or so, then smoothly up tp 25PSI sustained at WOT... that's with the 2.5 bar MAP sensor....

Jay, the intercooler piping is in and the bend I ordered from silicone intakes should be in by Tuesday so we should at least have an idea of what the final product will be like as far as the intercooler/piping set up.