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Old April 24th, 2008, 08:45   #1
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Default Accidentally put dyed off-road diesel.

Hello. I am a newbie. I have a 2006 VW Jetta TDI w/27,000 miles on it. I went to fill my car up today with B20 BioDiesel and there are two pumps. One has a small sign that says BioDiesel and the other has a very smll sign that says "Dyed Off-Road Diesel". So I accidentally put 3.5 gallons of the dyed off-road diesel in my Jetta. I found out that there are 2 types of off-road: type 1 and type 2. Type 1, I was told is catastrophic for my car and would have to get $400 worth f repairs. The stuff I put in this morning was not type 1 but type 2. I immediately called the dealership and they said that because it was such a small amount that I would be ok. I finished filling it up with BioDiesel and made my merry way to work. My question is: Am I cool with that little bit in my car? My wife and I are going on a big trip (1,500 miles) next week into SW Colorado. I should be good for that right? Thanks in advance for your courtesy in not being too hard on a newbie. BE GENTLE! Peace.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 08:49   #2
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mxpxer41, you'll be fine. Worst case is that the type 1 has a higher sulpher content (better lubricity). Worse for polution but better but that's about it I think...
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Old April 24th, 2008, 08:53   #3
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You'll be fine... especially if you put in biodiesel.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 08:54   #4
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If you put in #1 diesel (which is essentially kerosene), what you have in your tank now is just like winterized #2 (which is #2 mixed with #1).
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Old April 24th, 2008, 09:20   #5
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Oh Im tellin - you are in big trouble - the FDT has been notified - the fine is 10k or 10 years or both - your car will dissolve and deport itself to Mexico.



It would not even cripple a 09 let alone a 06 you are fine. Watch the BIO is limited to 5% by VW . Good Luck.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 09:33   #6
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phwewwww! Thanks for being so helpful everyone. My anxiety is going down and I am feeling better. Thanks for the help and everything. I hope that when I become a veteran I can help people like you have. One question: does VW really void the warranty if I use B20 biodiesel? Just curious because I have heard many mixed things.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 09:35   #7
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One question: does VW really void the warranty if I use B20 biodiesel?
Yes..
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Old April 24th, 2008, 09:38   #8
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The simple act of using it does not magically invalidate the warranty, but *IF* your car were to experience some sort of engine problem, and you went to the dealer to have it repaired under warranty, the dealer can turn around and say "Sorry, this engine problem was caused by your using an incorrect fuel (b20) so we can repair it but YOU will have to pay for it".

That said, many folks here* have a lot of happy motoring miles on B20 with no issues whatsoever, but you do it "at your own risk".

* We run our two '96 Passat TDI's, '03 Jetta TDI, and '97 MB E300d exclusively on B20 fuel.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 09:42   #9
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A good thing do do is to not put "I use bio-diesel" stickers on your bumper or windows.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 09:44   #10
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A good thing do do is to not put "I use bio-diesel" stickers on your bumper or windows.
x2 on that. That's like begging the service department to red flag your account.

Don't have any stupid biodiesel stickers & don't even say the word "biodiesel" when talking with a dealer employee.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 10:04   #11
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Use 5% bio till warranty is up.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 10:55   #12
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My TDI has been almost *festooned* with biodiesel stickers, from a couple of weeks since new. And yes, I took it into the dealer that way, loaded for bear. I asked them about biodiesel in general, and they said they had no opinion either way. No problems, but I had a pin-hole fuel leak, which they fixed under warranty with no complaints. At first I thought "Heeere we go" but they didn't say anything about the fuel type.

That said, it's probably best to leave the bio stickers off until the warranty's up, unless you're pals with the service manager (I'm not).

One more thing. If something is wrong with the car, they have to have good reason to deny your warranty based on biodiesel use. So, if your windshield wipers stop working, they can't blame it on the fuel.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 16:35   #13
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One more thing. If something is wrong with the car, they have to have good reason to deny your warranty based on biodiesel use. So, if your windshield wipers stop working, they can't blame it on the fuel.
Remember though, you just gave them a very good reason to deny your warranty on almost any issue you could possibly have from the fuel cap to the exhaust header and possibly beyond.

And prior to that no reason existed at all.

(Of course I live in Northern Illinois where it looks like ALL diesel is at least B11, whether we like it or not)
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Old April 24th, 2008, 16:49   #14
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If you had 5% bio or zero percent bio in your tank, and you had a fuel-related problem, VW would not cover it. No car company covers damage that is caused by misfueling. If you put gasoline in your TDI, VW will not cover the damage. If you put diesel in a Honda, they will not cover the damage. If you get 1/2 a tank of water, VW will not cover the damage.

The question is: "Will biodiesel hurt my TDI?"

The answer is generally "no."

Bad fuel of any kind will hurt your TDI. If the bio is good quality, and you use the proper blend for the ambient temperatures, your car will run just fine on it.
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Old April 24th, 2008, 18:29   #15
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