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Old March 3rd, 2008, 13:51   #1
wjdell
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Default TDI UOA Database

Calculated by dividing total wear metals by miles in thousands. The national average is 6.538 ppm total wear metals, less Mn and Ni. This is based on 51 ppm total / 7800 miles by Blackstone.

TDI Club Ave : 6.952 ppm. ~~~~~~ Club Ave. OCI : 9981 mi. 8/25/09
  1. Odinsjetta 05/17/09 ALH Total MC3 1.667
  2. VATechTDI 04/23/09 ALH Rotella T CJ4 1.782
  3. aja8888 06/24/08 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 2.252
  4. Braga_Dub 03/26/08 ALH Elf DID 505.01 2.500
  5. Eb2143 06/01/09 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 2.579
  6. Revolutionary_mind 01/08/09 BEW Mobil TDT CI4+ 2.674
  7. phaser 08/27/08 BEW Elf LLX 504/507 2.716
  8. MikeB60 02/15/08 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 2.783
  9. truman 04/24/09 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 2.857
  10. Bob_Fout 07/19/09 ALH Amsoil DEO CJ4 2.947
  11. oEo 07/18/09 BEW Total MC3 3.036
  12. pruzink 04/27/08 BEW Elf DID 505.01 3.086
  13. Kalebenne 02/16/09 BHW Total MC3 3.144
  14. mchapek 08/30/09 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 3.186
  15. Dimitri16V 06/16/09 BEW Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.200
  16. truman 04/07/08 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.273
  17. aNUT 01/06/09 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.298
  18. Galactic Warrior 08/26/08 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.300
  19. Gmark 07/30/08 BEW Mobil D ESP CJ4 3.364
  20. tommyt 01/04/09 ALH Rotella T CJ4 3.374
  21. WHATSUPDOC 08/21/08 ALH Elf CRV 506.01 3.409
  22. fitski 02/11/08 BEW Elf DID 505.01 3.450
  23. WJDell 04/20/09 BRM Schaeffer S9000 CJ4 3.562
  24. volmaniac 02/07/08 ALH Mobil TDT CI4+ 3.754
  25. ANON # 43921 04/12/08 BEW Schaeffer S9000 CJ4 3.819
  26. AndyH 05/11/08 1Z Amsoil DEO CJ4 3.864
  27. Blue_Hen_TDI 10/16/08 1Z Mobil ESP 504/507 3.912
  28. N2carz 05/31/09 BRM Mobil TDT CJ4 4.016
  29. spuimatt 03/13/08 ALH Amsoil AME CI4+ 4.492
  30. Ski_in_ NC 08/11/08 ALH C Pro SLX II 505.01 4.731
  31. JohnB 06/01/07 ALH Esso XD3 CI4+ 4.800
  32. astrolumen 06/22/09 ALH Mobil ESP 504/507 4.824
  33. TedHurst 11/08/08 BRM C Pro SLX II 505.01 4.898
  34. AndyH 11/04/03 1Z Amsoil HDD CI4+ 4.899
  35. Redputter 11/04/08 ALH Castrol SynTec 5.100
  36. tdileadfoot 10/20/08 BRM Elf LLX 504/507 5.115
  37. Nellie 12/22/07 BEW Motul Specific 505.01 5.169
  38. Lekolite 05/17/09 ALH Elf LSX 5.192
  39. silverbox 10/21/08 ALH Mobil D ESP CJ4 5.206
  40. tommyt 08/28/08 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 5.306
  41. thermographer 02/29/08 BEW VW LL III 504/507 5.333
  42. icecap 07/30/08 BRM C Pro SLX II 505.01 5.400
  43. zanzabar 06/09/08 BEW VW LL III 504/507 5.577
  44. spiceredwagon 06/20/08 BEW Elf DID 505.01 5.592
  45. nutdriver 06/09/09 BRM Mobil ESP 504/507 5.806
  46. Almagne 06/22/08 BRM Elf LLX 504/507 6.258
  47. Matt65 08/03/09 BRM Total MC3 6.378
  48. AndyH 07/23/07 BRM Amsoil AFL 505.01 6.500
  49. Hutchman 05/01/09 BRM Elf LLX 504/507 6.553
  50. gern 03/28/08 ALH Elf DID 505.01 6.588
  51. cbass94 10/11/08 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 6.900
  52. milehighassassin 06/05/08 BEW Elf LLX 504/507 6.932
  53. EVO&TDI 03/10/08 BEW Amsoil AFL 505.01 6.947
  54. blkpas 08/27/08 BHW Elf CRV 506.01 7.600
  55. ANON # 20444855 04/07/08 BEW Mobil TDT CI4+ 7.750
  56. maktas 09/09/08 BHW VW LL III 504/507 7.778
  57. RichOxfordBlue 05/18/09 BRM Elf LSX 8.000
  58. Brock_fr_WI 01/28/08 ALH Elf CRV 506.01 8.087
  59. whitedog 01/11/09 BEW Castrol TXT 505.01 8.300
  60. Foobert 03/15/09 BEW Elf LSX 8.491
  61. cbass94 08/03/08 ALH Elf LLX 504/507 9.100
  62. TdiPd05 02/27/09 BEW Total INEO 507 9.604
  63. leicaman 11/20/07 BHW C Pro SLX II 505.01 9.800
  64. MarbleTDI 03/28/08 ALH Mobil ESP 504/507 9.928
  65. Low_Velocity 08/18/08 BRM Elf CRV 506.01 10.300
  66. deepseafortydog 07/19/08 ALH Amsoil AFL 505.01 10.434
  67. AndyH 07/23/06 BRM Motul Specific 505.01 10.543
  68. Abacus 08/05/08 1Z Rotella T CI4+ 11.276
  69. Mdfirefighter 05/22/09 BRM Elf LSX 12.503
  70. Diesel Addict 12/25/07 BEW Red Line CI4+ 12.815
  71. 04PDWagon 12/19/06 BEW Motul Specific 505.01 14.200
  72. dhdenney 09/15/08 BRM VW LL III 504/507 14.366
  73. Jetta09chicago 07/14/09 CBEA Factory 14.788
  74. mparker326 08/27/07 BHW Quakerstate 505.01 16.533
  75. sdeck 08/10/07 ALH Rotella T CI4+ 17.937
  76. Pelican18TQA4 06/04/09 CBEA Factory 22.553
  77. Alnmike 05/05/09 CBEA Factory 25.827
  78. Hurst89 03/22/08 BRM Elf DID 505.01 28.005
  79. PalosParked 05/02/09 CBEA Factory 30.642
  80. DidJettarun 03/24/09 BRM Motul Specific 505.01 39.645
Oil Performance in descending order with 2 or more entries. 8/25/09
  1. Shell Rotella T CJ4 5W40 API 2
  2. Amsoil DEO CJ4 5W40 API 2
  3. Mobil 1 TDT CI4+ 5W40 API 9
  4. TOTAL MC3 VAG 4
  5. Schaeffer S9000 CJ4 505.01 5W40 API 2
  6. Mobil TDT CJ4 5W40 API 2
  7. Mobil 1 Delvac ESP CJ4 5W40 API 5
  8. Elf LLX 504/407 5W30 VAG 6
  9. Mobil 1 ESP 504/407 5W30 VAG 4
  10. Castrol Pro 505.01 5W30 VAG 4
  11. Castrol SLX III 504/507 5W30 VAG 5
  12. Shell Rotella T CI4+ 5W40 API 7
  13. Elf CRV 506.01 0W30 VAG 4
  14. Amsoil AFL 505.01 5W40 VAG 3
  15. Elf DID 505.01 5W40 VAG 6
  16. ELF LSX VAG 4
  17. Motul Specific 505.01 5W40 VAG 4
  18. FACT VAG 3
8/25/09
Average wear for API ---- 4.10 ppm TWM
Average wear for VAG --- 8.38 ppm TWM

For the top 24 users in each catagory shows that API oils are 26% lower in wear over VAG oils.


“used oil analysis” Database : Instructions


1. You must submit all information in the format shown at bottom.
Use your same post for every UOA, to save space, and to make it easier to read. If you post twice, you will not be counted till you delete the second post. So, every time you get a new UOA, go back to your original post and edit it. Or add the UOA you want tabulated to the top in the required format. Link to your full UOA's below your database entry. SunRG's UOA and discussion thread is there for you, http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=154548, use it. If you want to have a separate thread for all your UOA's, then post all your UOA's in ONE thread. This will save space and you can post a link to it in your personal UOA thread. This will show all your UOA's in one click. People can then see your trend and make sense of it

2. The minimum for tabulation into the database is 5000 miles, or 125 hours if you have a meter.
One hour is equivalent to 40 miles. We have users that average less than 25 mph. Its a honor system so you need not post your lab copy of UOA, again space. It need not be your last UOA, or your best UOA, but only the one at the very top will be included. Manganese and Nickel are optional for now.

3. There are no deductions for baseline but you may deduct for VOA on a batch.
If you need to bring something to attention, send me a private message. If you need to bring attention to another poster, send a message. In the end we should be able to form norms by engine code., and as well learn about oil performance. Just because you do not have a great UOA, please post it anyway. If we do not get a wide range of posters then the data will lack accuracy. Your information may be more important than the leaders posting the lower numbers. You may have more than one engine. If you would like to add a engine then put a number at the top. If I miss it then mail me and let me know. If you wish to remain anonymous you must send me a copy of the UOA, less name and address.

THIS MUST BE AT THE TOP OF YOUR POST. ALL, that's ALL other info goes below.
# 1 - 2 etc. (if you have more than one engine, only if neccessary)

Date:
Engine Code:
Miles/Hours oil:
Miles/unit:
Oil Type:
Fe Iron:
Cr Chromium:
Al Aluminum:
Cu Copper:
Pb Lead:
Sn Tin:
Ni Nickel:
Mn Manganese:
By-Pass: "yes or no"
Top off Oil:

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 13:52   #2
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Fuel Economy: avg. 41.93 high 46.32 low 34.6
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Date04/20/09
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 8130
Miles/unit: 47264
Oil Type: Schaeffer S9000 5W40
Fe Iron: 16
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 1

Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: yes
Top off Oil:14 oz

no engine heater - commute changed

Date:12/26/08
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 5178
Miles/unit: 44240
Oil Type: Schaeffer S9000 5W40
Fe Iron: 9
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 1
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 2

Ni Nickel:2
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: yes
Top off Oil:10 oz

Oil pan heated when temps are < 70 F


Date:7/25/08
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 7001
Miles/unit: 38293
Oil Type: VW LL III
Fe Iron: 17
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 6
Sn Tin: 1

Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Oil pan heated when temps are < 70 F

Date:2/25/08
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 6021
Miles/unit: 30541
Oil Type: VW LL III
Fe Iron: 15
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 1
Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Oil pan heated when temps are < 70 F

Date:09/17/07
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 4000
Miles/unit: 23478
Oil Type: VW LL III
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 2
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Date:06/03/07
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 4000
Miles/unit: 19478
Oil Type: Amsoil AFLI
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 1
Ni Nickel:0
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Date:03/16/07
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 5000
Miles/unit: 15239
Oil Type: Motul Specific 505.01I
Fe Iron: 24
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel:1
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

Date:12/22/06
Engine Code: BRM
Miles/oil: 5009
Miles/unit: 10239
Oil Type: Motul Specific 505.01
Fe Iron: 24
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel:1
Mg Manganese:0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil:0

~ ppm ~ hrs/oil ~ mi / unit
1. 6.61 @ 132 ~ 10.0k
2. 6.82 @ 131 ~ 15.5k
3. 7.31 @ 100 ~ 19.5k
4. 7.36 @ 100 ~ 24.5k
5. 4.48 @ 150 ~ 31.3k
6. 4.57 @ 184 ~ 38.3k
7. 3.67 @ 132 ~
44.2k
7. 3,56 @ 216 - 47.2k

8. 3.31 @ 225 - 55.k

My UOA's ~~ USED OIL ANALYSIS ~ link ~~ http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=190958

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 17:13   #3
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Date: 4/16/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10,200
Miles/unit: 155,200
Oil Type: Mobil 1 TDT---NON 505.01
Fe Iron: 17
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
insolubles % 0.3
Fuel - 2.0!!!


Date: 2/19/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 7,000
Miles/unit: 145,000
Oil Type: Mobil 1 TDT---NON 505.01
Fe Iron: 23
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0
insolubles % 0.4
fuel - 0


Date: 1/8/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 8,200
Miles/unit: 138,000
Oil Type: ELF solaris 507.00 LLX 5w30
Fe Iron: 61
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 3
insolubles %0.3
fuel --less than .5
Sn Tin: 0


Date: 11/21/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 15,000
Miles/unit: 130,000
Oil Type: elf solaris LLX 5w30 507.00
Fe Iron: 155
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 11
Cu Copper: 6
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 1
insolubles% 0.4
fuel ---less than 0.5

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Date: 07/31/09
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10866
Miles/unit: 180744
Oil Type: Mobil 1 ESP Formula 507
Fe Iron: 40
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 2
Cu Copper: 1
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: Yes
Top off Oil: 0

Date: 12/07/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 9830
Miles/unit: 159905
Oil Type: Elf Solaris LLX 504/507
Fe Iron: 27
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 7
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0

Date: 08/27/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 9942
Miles/unit: 150075
Oil Type: Elf Solaris LLX 504/507
Fe Iron: 17
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 1
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0

Date: 01/01/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10319
Miles/unit: 130134
Oil Type: Elf Solaris LLX 504/507
Fe Iron: 29
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 10
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0

Date: 08/22/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10097
Miles/unit: 119815
Oil Type: ELF 506.01
Fe Iron: 30
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 0
Mg Manganese: 0
By-Pass: no
Top off Oil: 0
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Date: 2/29/2008
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 12000
Miles/unit: 157,101
Oil Type: Castrol LL3
Fe Iron: 44
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 11
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0
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Date: 11-Feb-2008
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 15,073
Miles/unit: 79,327
Oil Type: Elf Excellium DID 505.01 5W40
Fe Iron: 40
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 0

[See the above UOA here.]

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Date: 8/27/2007
Engine Code: BHW Passat
Miles/oil: 7500
Miles/unit: 27500
Oil Type: Quaker State 505.01
Fe Iron: 89
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 13
Cu Copper: 9
Pb Lead: 11
Sn Tin: 0
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Date: 10/2/2008
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/Hours oil: 12485
Miles/unit: 133,885
Oil Type: M1 TDT
Fe Iron: 25
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 5
Sn Tin: 0
Ni Nickel: 1
Mg Manganese: 1
By-Pass: No
Top off Oil: 0.5 quart

Date: 2/15/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 11,500
Miles/unit: 121,000
Oil Type: Mobil 1 TDT
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 1
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Date: 6/5/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10531
Miles/unit: 83534
Oil Type: Elf Solaris 507
Fe Iron: 58
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 8
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0


OLDER (but same oil):
Date: 3/4/08
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5028
Miles/unit: 78005
Oil Type: Elf Solaris 507
Fe Iron: 33 (36)
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 12 (16)
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 3
Sn Tin: 0

My numbers are based off of two UOA's. I did a baseline UOA with 25 miles on this oil, so I took those numbers and minused them from my 2nd UOA.

Numbers in parenthesis are the actual number if there is a difference.


Edit... I guess this shows how much more wear you have early on the oil compared to later.

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Engine Code: ISB

Miles/oil: 7500Miles/unit:20000
Oil Type: Delvac 1
Fe Iron:13
Cr Chromium:0
Al Aluminum:2
Cu Copper:4
Pb Lead:1
Sn Tin:0


Date: 10-27-04
Engine Code: ISB
Miles/oil: 9900
Miles/unit:29900
Oil Type: Delvac 1
Fe Iron:19
Cr Chromium:1
Al Aluminum:4
Cu Copper:4
Pb Lead:0
Sn Tin:0
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Date: 4/12/2008
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 6808
Miles/unit: 78288
Oil Type: Schaeffers S9000 5W40
Fe Iron: 21
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 0
Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0

Soot Vol ---- .1% ---- .2%

Vis 100C ---- 12.7 -– 14.1

This engine had 3 OCI's of Amsoil AFL and 2 of Pento TS with the last one spiked with LM MoS2 additive. The S9000 with a count of 264 ppm MoS2 was higher than the LM additive at 164 ppm. This oil also contained Antimony of 36 ppm and that could have contributed to the jump in copper. I read that sometimes Antimony will raise the Cu number. Its the first run and from what I understand a Pella was used and the cooler was not emptied. Inheritance was a bit higher this UOA is probably better than it looks.

Date: 12/4/2007
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 6300
Miles/unit: 71480
Oil Type: Pento TS w/LM MoS2
Fe Iron: 22
Cr Chromium: 0
Al Aluminum: 0
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0

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Date:12/5/08
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10000
Miles/unit: 90000
Oil Type: Mobil 1 TDT 5W-40 (CI-4+)
Fe Iron: 24
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0

Date:6/1/07
Engine Code: ALH
Miles/oil: 10000
Miles/unit: 70000
Oil Type: Esso Extra XD-3 0W-40
Fe Iron: 37
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 3
Cu Copper: 5
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 0

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Old March 11th, 2008, 08:45   #13
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Date:3/10/08
Engine Code:BEW
Miles/oil:9500
Miles/unit:143300
Oil Type:amsoil afl 5w40
Fe Iron:31
Cr Chromium:0
Al Aluminum:3
Cu Copper:22
Pb Lead:10
Sn Tin:0
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Old March 11th, 2008, 08:45   #14
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Purchased car w/ 44K. Performed Oil change at that time w/ Motul Technosynthese. Changed oil again at 50K with Technosyntese and left it in motor for VW recommended oil change interval. Results below.

Date: 12/19/06
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 10,000
Miles/unit: 59,927

Oil Type: Motul Technosynthese
Fe Iron: 116
Cr Chromium: 4
Al Aluminum: 15

Cu Copper: 4
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 1


When i pulled the above oil out, I replace it with Elf 506.01 in hopes of better mileage. I was then shocked to receive the above test results. Therefore I sample the Elf 506.01 at 5k and 10k and got the following 2 results.


Date: 2/12/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5,273
Miles/unit: 65,200
Oil Type: Elf 506.01
Fe Iron: 58
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 9
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 1
Sn Tin: 1


Date: 4/5/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 9,823
Miles/unit: 69,750
Oil Type: Elf 506.01
Fe Iron: 113
Cr Chromium: 3
Al Aluminum: 12
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0


At this point i was worried. I bought some Motul engine clean...threw that into the motor before changing the oil and then used the vacuum pump I just bought to make sure that I got all of the old oil out of the filter housing/cooler etc. i still changed the oil by draining at the bottom but then used the vacuum pump to clean out the filter housing, etc. I threw in some Motul Technosyntese that I still had in the garage and hoped for the best. Results are the following:

Date: 6/19/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5,768
Miles/unit: 75,518
Oil Type: Motul Technosyntese
Fe Iron: 45
Cr Chromium: 1
Al Aluminum: 5
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 2
Sn Tin: 0


Much better. I performed another oil change at this time and filled again with Technosyntese for another short interval. I changed the oil again at 80K but forgot to sample. On both Technosyntese oil changes the magnetic drain plug looked very clean. At 80K i poured in Elf Excillium and removed it from the car at 86,965 miles. Drain plug magnet had a lot of material on it and the report was as follows:

Date: 10/6/07
Engine Code: BEW
Miles/oil: 5,962
Miles/unit: 86,965
Oil Type: Elf Excillium
Fe Iron: 89
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 6
Cu Copper: 2
Pb Lead: 0
Sn Tin: 0


Worst results yet. At the above mileage I changed the oil and filled with Motul 100% Synthetic. This stayed in the motor until i changed the oil at 90K for another short interval. Drain plug looked very clean, but i forgot to sample. The car was sold with the 100% Synthetic still in the pan.

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Old March 11th, 2008, 18:54   #15
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Date: 11/20/2007
Engine Code: BHW
Miles/oil: 5000
Miles/unit: 39601
Oil Type: Castrol Professional OE 5w30, a 505.01 Cert. oil
Fe Iron: 36
Cr Chromium: 2
Al Aluminum: 4
Cu Copper: 3
Pb Lead: 4
Sn Tin: 0
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