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Old February 20th, 2008, 17:52   #1
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Default Geneva 08: Volkswagen Golf TDI Hybrid (US market in mind)

Car reports that VW will show a Golf Hybrid at the Geneva autoshow. The car shown will be near production ready. VW claims about 26% more MPGs than the Toyota Prius and about 15% less C02 emissions. The article states that the technology is adaptable for the Jetta and the A3 and is made for sale in the US.

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/ne...?news_id=17097
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Old February 21st, 2008, 08:23   #2
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No comments on this yet. This is exaclty the type of news tidbits that so many TDIclubers are clamouring for.

Maybe this should be in the news section. Hope this vapourware golf diesel hybrid shows up to the party quick!
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Old February 21st, 2008, 08:36   #3
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*This* can be the best of both worlds, technically. Let's just wait and see what the price tag is gonna be.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 08:39   #4
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It's 1990 all over again! (VW developed a plug in hybrid in the 90s, it used the ECOdiesel motor, a 10 HP electric motor, and two computer controlled clutches)

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Old February 21st, 2008, 09:33   #5
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Sounds good. The figures match closely (VERY closely) those quoted by PSA for their forthcoming Hybrid HDI...
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Old February 21st, 2008, 09:42   #6
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Old February 21st, 2008, 10:10   #7
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I'd take one.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 11:00   #8
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Default How does a 70MPG Diesel Hybrid suit you?

http://www.dailytech.com/VW+Prepares...icle10808c.htm

I've been thinking why doesn't someone put out a hybrid with diesel for some time. Damn I hope this comes to the US soon. Great economy for the city and diesel for the highway.. what more could one want.

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Old February 21st, 2008, 11:51   #9
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Quoted from Daily Tech article:

Other Golf-based vehicles that would be a prime target for the new powertrain include the upcoming VW Tiguan and Audi Q5 crossovers

A TDI hybrid Tiguan would be fantastic - I'm not holding my breath though. Wonder what one of those would cost? For now I'd be happy with a plain old TDI Tig.

Hybrid proponents often point out that while diesel are more efficient than gasoline motors, they are far dirtier.

More evidence that the hybrid crowd has their collective head up their butt

According to the German automotive giant, the Golf Hybrid will achieve roughly 69.9 MPG here in the U.S. <snip> The (Peugeot) 308 Hybrid HDi features a 107 HP diesel engine which is paired to a 128 HP electric motor. The combined system helps the vehicle achieve 69 MPG.

What is it with 69 MPG diesel hybrids? It's a conspiracy, right?
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Old February 21st, 2008, 11:54   #10
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Great economy for the city and diesel for the highway.. what more could one want.
Trunk space. Gimme a nice 50+mpg TDI Rabbit without the batteries eating up trunk space. And VW isn't known for reliable electronics, so I don't want a new set of electrical headaches, along with the additional cost of a hybrid system.

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What is it with 69 MPG diesel hybrids? It's a conspiracy, right?
It simply, conveniently corresponds with a magic number in CO2 emissions: 89 grams/km (that is, magic being under a nice, round 90). CO2 emissions will be the new fuel efficiency yardstick going forward -- particularly in Europe -- that MPG and L/100km have been until now.

Same psychology as $69 rather than $70.
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Trunk space. Gimme a nice 50+mpg TDI Rabbit without the batteries eating up trunk space. And VW isn't known for reliable electronics, so I don't want a new set of electrical headaches, along with the additional cost of a hybrid system.

Squirt fuel. Squeeze it. Kaboom.
Nice and simple.
I agree fully with this comment. Just focus on the simplest TDI that meets whatever requirements there are and bring it to market ASAP. How many city drivers are out there complaining about fuel mileage anyways?

All this money they waste on R&D should be spent on improving the dealer parts and service infrastructure in the USA IMO.
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I could even learn to live with the paint job!
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Old February 21st, 2008, 13:38   #14
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http://www.dailytech.com/VW+Prepares...icle10808c.htm

I've been thinking why doesn't someone put out a hybrid with diesel for some time. Damn I hope this comes to the US soon. Great economy for the city and diesel for the highway.. what more could one want.

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I'm surprised someone hasn't done this sooner. General Electric has been making diesel-electric locomotives for decades for the same reasons in this article. Shouldn't be that hard to scale down.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 14:25   #15
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In a 3500 pound car or 4000 pound mini-van I expect this type of engine to get around 60 - 65 mpg.

That would be a great thing for American consumers...

...shoot, never mind
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