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November 7th, 2007, 15:42
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Florida
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Heartbreak! Hallmark: All TDIs are delayed until summer '08
I received this email literally minutes ago...
November 7, 2007
To: All Volkswagen Dealers
Subject: Clean Diesel TDI Launch
Dear Dealer,
I am writing to inform you that the North American introduction of the new Clean Diesel 2.0 li TDI for the Jetta Sedan and Wagon has been delayed from April 2008, to late summer 2008. We will remain the first volume brand offering Clean Diesel in the USA.
This situation is due to a technical issue that was found during the later stages of durability testing.
As disappointing as this is for all concerned, our first priority is to ensure that the integrity and quality of the new technology is not compromised, so as to maintain a trouble free launch.
A new SOP date has been confirmed for July by engineering, and we will initiate our ordering activities i.e. launch cars, dealer orders, etc. in spring. For image and competitive reasons, we are now working hard to bring early promotional cars into the Country in order to give you the chance to pre-sell the production arriving in October, during the Summer months. We will continue to promote Diesel through the Dieselution Tour, Jetta TDI Cup Series, and feature the technology as a part of our Brand Campaign
in the first half of the year.
For reasons of our mutual profitability, we are investigating a number of actions to make up a portion of the TDI shortfall, such as but not limited to, obtaining additional production of high demand product, ramping up the launch production, and speeding up shipment times of the new TDI, bringing in special edition cars etc.
The launch of all other new models planned for 2008 are on time; Jetta SportWagen, Tiguan, Passat Coupe, M-Van and Touareg 2 with V6 Clean Diesel TDI. With all of these new models coming into the market, and even with the delay of the new TDI, we are targeting to grow next year, and this delay will be discounted from the BPB objectives as we have always promised.
We must now take advantage of the launches that are before us, and not let this set-back to our growth strategy cause us to lose focus on the turnaround that we have begun. We appreciate your understanding of the situation and will keep you apprised of any further developments as soon as they are available.
Yours sincerely,
Adrian Hallmark
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2008 Z4 3.0si, prem, sport, step, heated M seats
2000 Golf GLS TDI 4-door 5m 164k+ (w/VanAaken)
1999 Cabrio GLS 5m (84k)
2002 Jetta GLS TDI auto (sold@76k)
1998 Jetta Wolfsburg auto (sold@114k)
1986 Golf GL 1.8 gas 5m (sold@138k)
1988 Scirocco 1.8 5m (sold@109k)
1990 Corrado G60 5m (parted@142k)
(and Honda, Fords, GM, BMW, Volvo, Jeep)
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November 7th, 2007, 18:33
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TDI Lifer
Join Date: Jun 1997
Location: Kensington, Maryland USA
Fuel Economy: Old Passat 40 Mercedes 20
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I don't know why anyone would be surprised about this??
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2010 Jetta Sportwagen Salsa Red/Titan Black 
1996 Passat TDI Pearl Red
1996 Passat TDI Storm Grey
1984 Mercedes 300D Blue/Green
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November 7th, 2007, 18:50
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South of Boston
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Surprised? No. Disappointed? Yes.
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November 7th, 2007, 18:58
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Vermont, USA
Fuel Economy: best is 56MPG
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I work for the largest computer company in the world and can relate to this all too well. All too often somone sets an unrealistic delivery date to satisfy the beancounters or stockholders. It takes real guts to stand in front of that train and delay a major launch. I, for one, am glad that they chose to do the right thing and delay the launch.
I wonder if anyone can tell us what the big problem is that caused this delay?
Now - lets just hope they deliver what they say they will. If this gets pushed into 2009, things for VW may become challanging.
Besides, my 2003 TDI has several more years of life in it. I can wait.
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November 7th, 2007, 20:47
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Spring Lake, Michigan
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Dodoma
I don't understand why VW has a problem in getting these so called clean diesels in US when the same cars are being available in Europe. After all, we are not getting any thing new or new technology.
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Not true. This is new technology they're working on. The US's emissions requirements are more stringent than Europe's. The reason that no TDI's have been available is that they didn't meet the new, more stringent emissions standards here. I applaud VW for 'doing the right thing' and delaying production until they can get it done right.
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November 7th, 2007, 22:13
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: CA
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Too bad about the delay.
VW better not forget that a regular this Jetta gets XX city and XX highway advertisement is a requirement. Dieselution and small scale race all you want, the average consumer still watches TV.
Last edited by chewy; November 7th, 2007 at 22:17.
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November 7th, 2007, 22:16
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Portland, OR
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Originally Posted by frugality
I applaud VW for 'doing the right thing' and delaying production until they can get it done right.
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Totally agree. Better to get this straightened out now,
than after the release(see Navistar/Powerstroke)
Still disappointing, though.
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November 8th, 2007, 03:40
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Newbie
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Springboro
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So its a Passat Coupe? WTH? Thats dissappointing. I was hoping for something small and fun to drive.
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November 8th, 2007, 03:42
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Clinton, NY
Fuel Economy: ~38 mpg (first tank); 41.2 (second tank); now averaging ~42 mpg.
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It's too bad about the delay, but as a 2006 Jetta TDI owner, this means my resale value will continue to hold steady for a few more months.
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2006 Jetta TDI (build date Oct. 2005). 141000 miles. Mods: Euro LED Tail Lights, Amber Mode; Rear Fog Light; Aspherical Mirrors (Blue Tint); Osram SilverStar Hi/Lo Beams; DieselGeek SkidPlate; Hella Dynabeams; TDIFrostheater. Best Tank: 632.9 miles on 11.8 gallons = 53.6 mpg (06/08; cruise control set at 65 mph for most of the tank). Member of the 700 club (04/23/08).
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November 8th, 2007, 04:53
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Newbie
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: North of Boston
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Does that list mean no Golf and no NB TDIs at all in the new models? And with the V6 -- is VWoA just interested in *big* cars??
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November 8th, 2007, 04:59
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South of Boston
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It means no A body cars with TDIs. It's the exhaust treatment system that's the problem. The larger diesels use Urea injection and they're not having problems with that...yet.
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November 8th, 2007, 05:01
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Kentucky
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Yes, I too applaud VWOA's delay to work out whatever reliability issue that it is. Remember the clogged intake manifolds of the last series of TDIs? That was due to a band-aid put on the car to satisfy NOx emissions standards.
I can only hope that the new clean diesel technology has done a better job!!
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November 8th, 2007, 05:26
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Certified Volkswagen Nut Vendor
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: St Louis
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Wow. I predicted we would not even see any 2008 MY TDIs. Looks like I was right, as chances are any 'new' 2008 cars brought into the country in 'late summer' may as well be 2009 MY cars. Usually week 39 is the cutoff, but there are some exceptions (my dad's 2003 Element was built in Nov. of 2003?).
Which this means all the "bugs" won't get worked out until 2010 at the earliest.
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November 8th, 2007, 05:33
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Veteran Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Fuel Economy: 36 city, 40 hwy (80mph)
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Makes me glad I bought my '06 when I did. Don't think the F150 would have made it as my daily until '10.
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