www.tdiclub.com

Economy - Longevity - Performance
The #1 Source of TDI Information on the Web!
Forums TDIFAQ Articles Links Meets
Orders TDI Club Cards TDIFest 2013 Gone, but not forgotten VAG-Com List Unit Conversions TDIClub Chat Thank You



Go Back   TDIClub Forums > TDI Model Specific Discussions Areas > Non VW Group Diesels

Non VW Group Diesels This section is for discusion of Non VWGroup Diesels.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old March 18th, 2007, 06:47   #1
jrock
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Fuel Economy: 52.93 MPG MAX
Default 2.8 Powerstroke into a Ford Ranger

Edit: Dieseltoyz.com no longer carries the 2.8 powerstroke engine.


I’m looking for more information on a conversion, 2.8 Powerstroke into a Ford Ranger. If someone has experience or can direct me to information I’d greatly appreciate it.
Here are some of the things I do know:

Direct bolt into US ford ranger pickups


Engine is available from Diesel Toyz

http://www.dieseltoyz.com/


Cost is $5000 shipped. Engine is new with warranty.

Will work with NV series transmissions, AX series transmissions series transmissions series transmissions
True one wire engine (one wire to fuel cut solenoid)
277 ft/lbs torque at 1400 rpm
Direct injection turbo diesel with variable vane turbo
Bosch pump
Intercooled from factory
2 stage injectors

I also know that information is limited compared to Toyota diesel conversions.
__________________
2012 Passat SEL TDI
2005 Passat TDI (Sold)
2001 Jetta TDI
2000 Corvette (not a TDI but very fast)
2004 Ford Ranger

Last edited by jrock; March 16th, 2010 at 11:09.
jrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 18th, 2007, 18:33   #2
TurbinePower
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Upstate SC
TDI(s): None
Default

So... does that mean it doesn't have an engine computer? Holy crap, I may toss out everything and go back to a Ranger...
TurbinePower is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 19th, 2007, 08:24   #3
jrock
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Fuel Economy: 52.93 MPG MAX
Default

It is probably similar to the 12 value Cummins
__________________
2012 Passat SEL TDI
2005 Passat TDI (Sold)
2001 Jetta TDI
2000 Corvette (not a TDI but very fast)
2004 Ford Ranger
jrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 20th, 2007, 07:13   #4
highflyin250x
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: pa
Default

I am looking for information on these conversions. All i have found is people putting them in land rovers. Bolt in swap for a Ranger sounds great. From what i have read they can be adapted to many transmissions, but i was really hoping that someone could lay it all out. What else can they be swaped into? How difficult is getting the engine fully functional (guages, A/C, and all)? With all that torque will a stock ranger trans hold up? any 6 speed trans avalible? What trannys do they bolt up to, and which need adapters?
highflyin250x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 20th, 2007, 11:12   #5
jrock
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Fuel Economy: 52.93 MPG MAX
Default

Iíve got the same questions. For fun you can check out this powerstroke ranger. Itís the real deal not a conversion.

http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6035&st=0&p=81210&#entry81210
__________________
2012 Passat SEL TDI
2005 Passat TDI (Sold)
2001 Jetta TDI
2000 Corvette (not a TDI but very fast)
2004 Ford Ranger
jrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 20th, 2007, 12:18   #6
mavapa
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: rome, ga
TDI(s): 2001 golf
Default

That kind of conversion probably couldn't be done legally or at least driven on the road legally in some states. That would (or might) include any state with an emissions test requirement.
mavapa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 20th, 2007, 15:20   #7
highflyin250x
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: pa
Default

I asked dieseltoyz about the warranty on the engine and got the response

"We are currently not offering engines for sale, only conversions. -Todd"

But i have heard that there are other sources for these engines, maybe even a little cheaper. I am trying to track them down. If i only had the info to figure out if i am actually going to try and do this.
highflyin250x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 24th, 2007, 20:42   #8
wreaks
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: USA
TDI(s): None, Yet.
Default ebay

this guy in canada apparently is selling them, for like 6k + 1000 shipping, seems a bit high imo.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/4-cyl...temZ7997424276
wreaks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old March 27th, 2007, 06:46   #9
highflyin250x
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: pa
Default

i asked the guy on ebay if the motor is a bolt in swap for a ranger and this is the response i got

Hi Hello
They are a direct bolt in when replacing a 300TDI diesel. Some mods to motor mounts. OOPS you mean Ford Ranger. No they are not a drop in but size and power they would make a very nice engine in the truck. In South America they were used for years. They used a Eatom 5 speed that is not sold in North America.
The engine is sold for off road use only or in trucks that are 25 years of age. The engines are not EPA certified. They burn a lot cleaner than some diesels that are certifued.
Stephen
highflyin250x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 4th, 2007, 12:32   #10
cbass94
Veteran Member
 
cbass94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Default

This is the most popular swap for the Land Rover Defender 90. It's a HS2.8 Liter TGV engine built by MWM-International (same company that makes the Powerstrokes). They can be sourced here and bought to your heart's content: http://www.obwcanada.com/ This is that same guy that was selling the engine on Ebay that is listed above

They are a great engine for a swap because they don't have too many electronics. There is a better engine (IMO) for this swap though, and it's actually the one that is sold in South America currently in the Ford Ranger and F150. It's the 3.0L NGD International engine. I like it better because it's common-rail (with the piezo-electronic actuators, yada, yada, yada) and because it's got a variable geometry turbocharger (similar to the MKIV+ VW TDI's as you know). This provides it with phenomenal torque from very low in the rev range and great driving characteristics. More info about that engine can be found here: http://www.mwm-international.com.br/...ies&idSerie=23

It has been rumored that Ford is putting a version of this 3.0L NGD engine in some delivery trucks this year in the US, but I have yet to get my hands on one of them here in the US. They are all over Brazil though, and were there even 3 years ago.

*EDIT* Read to your heart's content about the 2.8 here: http://d-90.com/forum/showthread.php...ght=diesel+2.8
__________________
"You have champagne taste on a beer budget." - Mom
2011 Volkswagen JSW DSG (aka BW)
2003 Volkswagen Jetta TDI GLS 5-speed (aka Jetter)
1994 Land Rover Defender 90 5-speed (aka Landy)
1984 Mercedes Benz 190D 2.2L 5-speed (aka Bruce)

Last edited by cbass94; April 4th, 2007 at 12:36.
cbass94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 12th, 2007, 06:54   #11
highflyin250x
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: pa
Default

found another thread on this that is pretty good...

http://www.therangerstation.com/foru...hp?t49128.html
highflyin250x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old April 22nd, 2007, 08:25   #12
redhedbronco
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Colorado
Default

If you want to do it cheaply buy a Frito van. Have 3.9 Cummins can bolt Ford, Chevy or Dodge to them. Last 300-400k before rebuild. A guy called "Mooktank" put one into a newer Ranger and claims close to 40 mpg and all the power you want. You can get these vans for 1000 or less.
redhedbronco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old September 17th, 2008, 07:12   #13
Dieseltoys
 
Dieseltoys's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: San Antonio, Tx
Default

We had a small shipment back in 2005 and quickly sold them all. We no longer carry these engines, know where to get them, or provide information on these engines. Great engines though.
__________________
Check out our BEW oil pan armor $115 shipped!
http://dieseltoys.com/product/mk4-je...-oil-pan-armor
Dieseltoys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old November 16th, 2012, 14:01   #14
LRTDI
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Red Sox Nation
Default

Just thought I'd drop this link in since I'm rebuilding an old Land Rover with new almost everything. My engine is the same 2.8 Powerstroke used in the Ranger above.
It was a development of Land Rover's 2.5 tdi aka 300tdi engine, but much improved.
http://www.mdengineering.co.uk/index.php
LRTDI is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:09.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright - TDIClub Online LTD - 2014
Contact Us | Privacy Statement | Forum Rules | Disclaimer
TDIClub Online Ltd (TDIClub.com) is not affiliated with the VWoA or VWAG and is supported by contributions from viewers like you.
© 1996 - 2013, All Rights Reserved
Page generated in 0.16007 seconds with 9 queries
[Output: 111.37 Kb. compressed to 92.00 Kb. by saving 19.37 Kb. (17.39%)]