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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old March 7th, 2018, 09:52   #121
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Although they are close, Koni Reds are going to ride slightly better than FSDs. Technology in the Reds (twin tube hydraulic) is older than the FSD technology, for what that's worth. I still like Reds a lot.

Regarding springs, your best bet is probably to stick with the springs that came in the car. Match the paint codes to be sure. If you want a bit more height in front you can use a 12mm spacer (OE VW part) in front to raise it a bit.

I appreciate that, thanks for the info. I guess I will buy Koni Reds with stock spring then.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:26   #122
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Have You ever tried or hear anything about Bilstein B8 or HD?


How are they compared vs koni red with smoothness of a ride that im looking for?

How do they perform on soft MONO tube, high diameter piston (Bilstein B8 or HD )vs koni red TWIN tube litlle diameter piston (KONI RED) ?

whats your feedback on those?

just watched this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfw6oNxVi-c

thanks for the info
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Old March 9th, 2018, 06:41   #123
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I replaced the original dampers in my wagon at 60K miles with Bilstein HDs. I hated them. In the MKIV platform they ride very harsh. Keep in mind that perceptions of ride quality are totally subjective, and a lot of people like HDs. But I'm not one of them. I took them out after about 20K miles and installed some of the first Koni Reds for MKIV to come into NA. Much, much better ride. Even Koni coilovers with higher rate springs ride better in my car than the HDs.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 11:47   #124
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I also have the Bilstein HDs, after two sets of Koni Reds. The HDs are not all that comfortable, especially right now smack in the middle of pothole season. I feel every expansion joint. But they are too new for me to even consider replacing them.
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Old March 9th, 2018, 13:16   #125
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interesting....



yeah even my Mr2 turbo JDM TEIN Coilovers are kinda hard for me when it turn from hard to soft. Its fun on hard level but just over the weekend to play around,thats why its only my weekend car, but for every day definitely I want extremely soft . I also bought gel cushion which is amazing, now I can drive 4 hrs non stop to go fishing, without my butt being sore.


thanks for the feedback guys. Im definately going with Koni reds and stock Spring.


by any chance anyone can recommend best summer tire 2018 for 06 Golf mk4?

Price is not an issue. I just want it to be best of the best!! like I have for winter sick Michelin Latitude X-Ice
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Old March 9th, 2018, 13:20   #126
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What size wheels?
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Old March 10th, 2018, 19:10   #127
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rims are 15"


I bought the car with Michelins Primacy MXV 4 and did 60K on it and they still have a lot of thread just cracked all over the place and makes weird sound when I drive probably because needs to be balanced again

so yeah I use those for spring now


the size of tire is :

195/65 R15 91H


I'm big fan of pirellis but only on my crouch rocket bike, I was surprised when I saw the reviews of Summer Pirelli on the cars wheels in 2017



On my MR2 Turbo I have sick summer only "Yokohama ADVAN NEOVA" 245/40R17 Enkei rims, incredible grip, I think even better then Toyo tires I had in the past. but unfortunately they dont make those for my Mk4 golf ; /
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Old March 11th, 2018, 04:29   #128
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Not a lot of performance tire options in that size (none, really) but there are some good all-seasons. Michelins are good but I find them low on traction in all conditions. And they're expensive. I have Bridgestone Ecopias on one car, my sons have Continental PureContacts with EcoPlus Technology (long name, good tire) and I'm probably going to buy General Altimax RT43s for my Wagon. I have them on my Passat, and they have good grip, are quiet, and they're significantly less expensive than the Michelins.
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Old March 11th, 2018, 21:13   #129
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I ran a set of the Primacy MXV4s and got over a 100K on them. They were the best all around tire I've ever run. Quiet. Of course, they stopped making them when it was time for new ones.

Have the Pirelli P7 Cinturatos on there now. They're very good but not as good as the Michelins were, especially in wet pavement. But they're better in slight snow and ice than the Michelins were.

I'm sure that if you have dedicated winter tires, finding better dedicated summer treads than those I've mentioned above will be possible.
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Old March 12th, 2018, 07:39   #130
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cool thanks guys
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Old March 12th, 2018, 07:55   #131
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There are few, if any, summer tires available in this size. Haven't been for years.
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Old March 12th, 2018, 10:25   #132
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what you think about Michelin Energy Saver ?


https://www.carid.com/2006-volkswage...B%5D=200941089
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Quiet, rides nice, very low grip. I took them off my car after 8,000 miles because I thought I was going to slide into someone or something.

And (a) it's an all season tire; (b) their price is crazy high. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes
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Old March 12th, 2018, 13:00   #134
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Quiet, rides nice, very low grip. I took them off my car after 8,000 miles because I thought I was going to slide into someone or something.

And (a) it's an all season tire; (b) their price is crazy high. https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes



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Old March 12th, 2018, 13:27   #135
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CONTINENTAL PURECONTACT WITH ECOPLUS TECHNOLOGY


got best reviews from them all


I might go with Continental then


are they also quiet like Michelins?
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