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February 5th, 2007, 17:01
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
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SeaFoam???
i just finished reading the long debate over Diesel Purge and Seafoam but still haven't gotten a clear answer for myself. I know that seafoam is for gassers but doesn't it still do the same job? and if so...... where can it be picked up at?
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February 5th, 2007, 17:09
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Location: Victoria, TX
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i think you're supposed to stay away from it... and you don't want to put it into the intake... hydrolock? i seem to have read that several times here.
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February 5th, 2007, 17:10
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Location: Lincoln, NE
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I think Seafoam can be bought at about any auto parts store, I know thay have it at O'Reillys. I have not used it in a diesel, just gas powered cars.
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February 5th, 2007, 17:11
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You can get seafoam at any local auto parts place. Deisel Purge is harder to come by, I get mine online usually.
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February 5th, 2007, 17:20
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alright, so i now know where to find it, as anyone used it in a TDI directly into the injectors like diesel purge or know someone that has?
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February 5th, 2007, 17:27
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Originally Posted by N41EF
You can get seafoam at any local auto parts place. Deisel Purge is harder to come by, I get mine online usually.
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So have you used Seafoam in a diesel? If its made for gassers, I would be very leary of putting it into a diesel.
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February 5th, 2007, 17:28
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Not too sure if I would use it. What kind of problems are you experiencing that would prompt you to use it? I've used it once in a gasser, but it did basically nothing. Some strange form of witches brew, I think.
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February 5th, 2007, 18:23
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I've used seafoam in my gas cars but not in my diesels yet. I've read on other diesel sites where the diesel version of seafoam is twice the concentrate than the gas version. I think its also an anti-gel too.
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February 5th, 2007, 21:18
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Front Range, Colorado
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I would not use Seafoam in a diesel.
Seafoam is a solvent never intended to be used in a diesel. Introducing it into the fuel system would most certainly reduce the lubricity of the fuel, which would put the injection pump and injectors at risk.
Introducing it into a vacuum line as described in the directions on the can (directions for gassers) poses two problems.
1. Engine run away - Seafoam is highly combustible. In an engine such as a diesel with no throttle plate, this results in unrestricted fuel and air.
2. Hydrolocking - diesels are high compression engines, thus there is minimal combustion chamber volume. Literally an ounce of any liquid in the combustion chamber of a TDI would result in extensive damage.
Seafoam is a relativly effective product when used carefully in accordance with the directions. I've used in my gasser pickup, but I'd NEVER USE IT IN A TDI.
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February 6th, 2007, 06:07
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Seafoam is a solvent never intended to be used in a diesel.
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Here's the seafoam page for diesels. It says to add it to either the fuel filter cannister or to the tank, says nothing about vacuum lines. I don't know if vacuum lines apply to my diesels anyways.
http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechDiesel.htm
Other than not boosting Cetane, the website says pretty much the same thing that Power Service says that PS DFS can do. Is PS unsafe to use in diesels? That was a rhetorical question - we all know its ok to use.
Normally I wouldn't fill up the fuel filter with anything other than good fuel, but, if I was was gelled up and dead in the water and needed to get going, I'd fill it with seafoam.
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February 6th, 2007, 06:19
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Location: Overland Park, Kansas
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Alright, well thanks for the different oppinions, i don't want to start anything here so i'll just order some diesel purge online somewhere and just have to wait for that to come in. Thanks again.
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February 6th, 2007, 07:20
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This is from their website ;
SEA FOAM MOTOR TREATMENT for Diesel
Diesel Applications
Excellence in Performance - Cleans injectors
- Adds lubricity
- Anti-gel
- Cleans crankcase
- Restores power
- Removes moisture
- Cleans carbon
- Stabilizes fuel
- Diesel fuel conditioner
How to Use SEAFOAM MOTOR TREATMENT
In Tune-Up of Diesel Engines- Fill primary fuel filter with SEA FOAM. Be sure filter is fully primed to prevent air locks. This will clean injectors quickly.
- Use 1 pint of SEA FOAM to every 25 gallons of diesel fuel to add lubricity, clean fuel lines, injector pump and remove moisture.
- Use 1 pint of SEA FOAM to every 4 gallons of oil to clean rings and other engine parts internally. For best results, use SEA FOAM for 1 hour before oil change. Results in cleaner engines and longer oil change intervals.
When Added to Diesel Fuel Tank- Cleans fuel injectors
- De-ices and removes moisture
- Cleans carbon as you drive
- Diesel fuel conditioner and anti-gel
- Lubricates upper cylinders
- Stabilizes fuel
- Adds lubricity
One pint treats 25 gallons of fuel.
For Anti-Gel and De-Icer- Use 1 pint in fuel tank to 25 gallons of diesel fuel to dry moisture and prevent gelling. Sea Foam will degel gelled fuel. Start with one pint to 25 gallons of gelled fuel. More will be needed in extreme cold weather.
- If filters are gelled, change them and fill them with SEA FOAM.
- Use 1 pint to 25 gallons or (average of 1 ounce per gallon) to stabilize and condition fuels. One pint stabilizes 25 gallons of regular, unleaded and diesel fuels.
- Use 1 pint to stabilize 6-12 gallons of 2 cycle (gas-oil mix) fuels (average 2 ounce per gallon).
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Last edited by rotarykid; February 6th, 2007 at 07:26.
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February 6th, 2007, 09:30
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Ya, I read the same thing on the bottle, it is meant to be put in the fuel tank not the intake. I havent tryed it but I might.
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March 17th, 2007, 18:15
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i've put a can in the fuel tank before... i dont think it did much... but i've been using power service for a while..
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March 17th, 2007, 21:12
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Join Date: Aug 1998
Location: Whittier,CA-USA
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I heard that you can pour a couple oz's of Sea foam into the removed EGR cooler pipe off the exhaust manifold after you remove the turbo vacuum actuator and the cir-clip from the VNT arm and then vigorously exercise the VNT arm up and down to dislodge a good amount of caked up soot. This may be a very good, cheap, and effective process instead of having to remove the turbo. Common sense must be used in this process and I would let the vehicle sit for a couple hours after this procedure to allow most of the liquid Sea foam to dissipate. What do you think?  Later!
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