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Old January 19th, 2007, 10:29   #1
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I just bought a wick-type kerosene heater. Where is a good place to get kerosene? The owner's manual states to use clear K-1 kerosene. There is a fuel station near me that sells kerosene, but its dyed red (indicating tax not paid). Is this OK to use? I think its priced at about $3.20 a gallon, a bit more than D2!

I may check with heating oil companies and see what they offer.

So far I've noticed only one other station that caries kerosene, they are almost non-existent.

This is in Northern Virginia, in Fairfax County.

Get this, at Home Depot, where I bought the heater, they sold kerosene for $8 a gallon in steel cans!

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Old January 19th, 2007, 10:43   #2
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Nate, I buy gals or 2.5gals jugs at my local ACE Hdwe. The stuff is crystal clear and gives off far less odor compared to the stuff I've purchased at gas stations.

HD sells a syn K1 produced by XOM. It was very $$$ but was odorless when burned...tough to find this. They seem to get a single pallet per year and then it's gone.
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Old January 19th, 2007, 14:15   #3
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Nate, are there any Sheetz stations near you? In WV, kerosene is still available and I've seen it at almost every Sheetz. Price is usually less than D2 by maybe 10 cents??? Florida eliminated kerosene heaters by banning the sale of kerosene. Something about fire hazards. You might try contacting a woodburner/fireplace/pellet stove dealer and ask them where to buy K1 - if still legal in Va?
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Old January 19th, 2007, 17:52   #4
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I have my Kerosene heater in another room right now. In my apartment it's Kitchen and living room. The Kitchen has a fan, and there is a door that separates them. I turn on the fan, then turn on the heater, and close the door as I walk into the other room. After 2 minutes the fumes are gone, and I open the door. The kerosene heater I use is a fan heater, and blows the heat a good ways. I don't know your living arrangement, but either set it outside, or set it in a well ventilated room. And the first time you start it up, put it outside for a while, becuase it will cook all the dust off. And make sure it's empty when you put it away.
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Old January 19th, 2007, 18:49   #5
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What DD says, I was using Kero form my Irving statiopn up here and it literally burned my eyballs fomr the fumes. My CT (or hardware stores) sell the nice clear stuff hardly any fumes. I start it inside and shut it off inside with no issues (my house is drafty enough I guess lol)
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Old January 19th, 2007, 18:56   #6
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Forgot to add, my gas stations sell the clear stuff, never had a problem with it in the apartment.
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Old January 19th, 2007, 19:07   #7
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Home Despot sells 5 gallon drums of the stuff. Its pricy but I love having the drum to resuse for oil changes or storage of diesel, bio, or gas.
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Old January 20th, 2007, 06:32   #8
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"Florida eliminated kerosene heaters by banning the sale of kerosene. Something about fire hazards. "

I bet non-vented heaters are banned in Florida too. About 8 years ago I sold a Glo Warm unvented natural gas heater on e-Bay. I used it 4 years (in a previous house I had) and bought it new for $145. I even stated what I bought it for in the e-Bay listing. Someone in Florida bought it for $160 plus shipping!

I wish I still had it, because at this point I think I would tap into the water heater gas line and run a hook up for it, like I did in the other house. Its al ot easier than using Kerosene heaters. I used a kerosene heater before and it was a real hassle hauling the fuel and the heater maintenance. Natural gas is about 25% less per BTU value, too.

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Old January 20th, 2007, 09:48   #9
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Maintenence of a convection style kerosene heater is nothing. I can take mine apart and change the wick in about 5 minutes with no tools. Such a hassle with the single button push start too and no fans/electricity required

What brand did you get? I got a KeroHeat heater through northerntool.ca for $99
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Old January 20th, 2007, 10:52   #10
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I get my K-1 from a local gas station but its almost $4/gallon there. I have 2 kero heaters for the garage but never use them. Picked them up out of the local paper for like $50 for the pair.
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Old January 20th, 2007, 10:56   #11
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This seems odd, but I am in upstate NY and my local fuel company with cardlock biodiesel and regular diesel also has a kerosene pump. Diesel and bio are 2.79 a gallon and clear K1 is 2.39 a gallon.

Defenitely clear and no red dye and defenitely tastes really bad.
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Old January 27th, 2007, 06:42   #12
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The only possible downside is the red dye causing deposits in the wick... but it's the same red dye they tag off-road diesel with, and if it would leave deposits in a kerosene heater's wick, it would leave deposits in off-road tractor diesel injectors. So, there's no downside. (My family's used both red and clear K1 in various heaters, and it worked pretty well.)

Also, they sell fuel additives at hardware stores for kerosene heaters that increase the cetane and add a scent.

Oh, and having owned OLD kerosene heaters, usually the ignitors quit working, and then you have to stick a lighter in there. But, the things work pretty well.

Heck, I'd suggest using biodiesel... except bio won't climb a wick very well, so it won't burn right in a kerosene heater.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 09:08   #13
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Using clear is best since the dye can make it burn funny.

One thing I really recommend is the 10k BTU vs. 23k BTU model.

The 10k is a reflective(radiant) heater with an taller cat. to burn better with less smell. It also lets you sit it up against a wall without the worry of setting the wall on fire.

The bigger 23k model is convection heater meaning it heats everything around it in 360* circle. It needs a bit of clearance all around as everything can get extremely hot if it is not. They have a tendency to smell too as the burner is much shorter, not enough room to burn off those extra hydrocarbons.

Ya the non-nature made stuff is great, burns cleaner with 0 odor but it can be pricey.

Personally I stick to propane/ng just because you can't make a mess with it.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 11:27   #14
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I bought the convection style since it is easier to cook over (use a pot not hotdogs on the flame) in the event of a long power outage, but you have to be careful 100% of the time as stated. I don't find it smells bad while operating, but there is a bit of a smell on shutdown that the sensitive might not like.
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Old April 19th, 2007, 21:08   #15
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They have clear kero. $1.99 here in Richmond Va.
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