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Old December 11th, 2006, 07:16   #31
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Phil,

Please post your results with the alarm horn and interior monitoring.

I am interested in the alarm horn for my wife's 2004 wagon.

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Old December 13th, 2006, 11:49   #32
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Old December 13th, 2006, 17:00   #33
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Hello, I have made a simple schematic that may help some of you with the mod of replacing the horn by DWA:

Parts needed:

Horn (P/N: 1J0 951 605 (A) ):



Connector and pins (part #: 1J0973703 and 000979131):



and the diagram:



Note: I hope the language is not an issue... if it is, I will do my best to translate.

Enjoy this mod... it is very cool! My collegues here do not believe that I am running the new models horn


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For 1999-2001 cars:
Quote:
Siren wiring, here's what my analysis says
1. move pin 2 (factory horn) to Pin 1 of the siren, move T15/11 (CCM) to T15/6(CCM) - Signal

2. move Pin 1 (factory horn) to Pin 2 of the siren - Ground

3. tap pin 3 of siren to T15/12(existing)-power

For 2001-2002 the assignments are:

so it's very similar to mine
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1. move pin 2 (factory horn) to Pin 1 of the siren, move T15/11 (CCM) to T15/3(CCM) - Signal

2. move Pin 1 (factory horn) to Pin 2 of the siren - Ground

3. tap pin 3 of siren to T15/12(existing)-power
Note: I have updated the Part Number of the siren today (Jan 16th '07) because at the time that I wrote this post I was convinced that both sirens, 1K0 and 1J0 were compatible but today I am sure that it is not true. Unfortunately because some of you reported that this siren did not work. I never had a single 1K0 siren .... just suspected that LIN-BUS protocol was the same in newer models after 2006 as in older ones (before 2006). I am sorry for the inconveniences :-(


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You're saying input 04367, 04368, 04369 here...




And enter the value 112 at each location(04367,..68..69), right??

This will activate the Alarm Horn H12
More or less... the operation must be repeated three times:

27 Eeprom serial write
Address: 4367
Value: 112 or $70 (if you want to put hexadecimal format, must prefix with $ sign)
OK

27 Eeprom serial write
Address: 4368
Value: 112 or $70 (if you want to put hexadecimal format, must prefix with $ sign)
OK

27 Eeprom serial write
Address: 4369
Value: 112 or $70 (if you want to put hexadecimal format, must prefix with $ sign)
OK

The $ sign works also for addresses... 04367 ==> $110F. Hope this helps!

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Old December 13th, 2006, 18:27   #34
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I replaced my duck horn with an alarm siren, using the positive signal from the CCM - with a diode protecting the CCM since a relay would not open and close fast enough to work correctly.

I think I'll have to try this out one of these days. The siren sounds much louder than mine does using the German beep programmed with Vag-Com.

Keep up the good work Madelgado!
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Old December 13th, 2006, 20:46   #35
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After modifying the CCM according to Miguel's memory numbers, it's just a wiring exercise. Miguel posted the wiring for a 2002+


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Phil is telling me my 1J0 959 799Ah 046 CCM has the backup horn or siren feature.

I too will be wiring the siren this weekend.

For 1999-2001 cars:
Siren wiring, here's what my analysis says
1. move pin 2 (factory horn) to Pin 1 of the siren, move T15/11 (CCM) to T15/6(CCM) - Signal

2. move Pin 1 (factory horn) to Pin 2 of the siren - Ground

3. tap pin 3 of siren to T15/12(existing)-power


For 2001-2002 the assignments are:

so it's very similar to mine
1. move pin 2 (factory horn) to Pin 1 of the siren, move T15/11 (CCM) to T15/3(CCM) - Signal

2. move Pin 1 (factory horn) to Pin 2 of the siren - Ground

3. tap pin 3 of siren to T15/12(existing)-power


1999-2001 vs 2001-2002
Pin 1 - T15/6 vs T15/3 - signal
Pin 2 - Ground - same
Pin 3 - Power - same


I tried wiring this up on my car back when SVTWEB still had his Bora. Now, I realize that I didn't have the wires connected properly!
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Old December 13th, 2006, 21:15   #36
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Miguel,

Which byte(0-9) in 04367, 04368, 04369 did you put 112???

thanks,

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Hello again... IT WORKED JUST AS EXPECTED... just wrote 112 in the horn mode addresses (4367,4368 and 4369) and ...... peeeeeuuuuuueeeeeuuuuuueeeeeuuuuu.... no more mooooock ----- moooock ------ moooock.....

After I parked my car at the basement, I recorded a small demostrative video.... it is mobile quality, sorry... but shows the work done! I will describe it a bit: First scene, the car... then I open (peep --- peep); then close (peep); alarm gets activated... I rolled down the windows a bit previously, so that I could put my arm into the car... I wait a few secs and wave my hand inside... then the alarm takes off as expected ....; then open with the remote and the alarm stops sounding...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vDkSdxsQ5o

Again, may thanks for letting me to share this with all of u ;-) Nice people!
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Old December 13th, 2006, 23:14   #37
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Miguel,

Which byte(0-9) in 04367, 04368, 04369 did you put 112???

thanks,

Lito
Lito if you doing this using VDS_PRO, when you write to location 04367 enter the hex value, which is 70 (decimal 112) and same for 04368, and 04369

Migual took these values from the spreadsheet I created and also send to you as well. Look at the values in the spreadsheet for my CCM. All will become clear

if you are reading using VDS_PRO enter location 4360, and then will show values from 4360 - 4369 therefore

0 -------1------ 2 --- 3 --- 4 ---- 5 ------ 6 ----7----- 8 ---- 9
4360 | 4361 | 4362 |4363 |4364 | 4365 | 4366 | 4367 | 4368 | 4369

I hope that helps.

Cheers
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Old December 14th, 2006, 00:01   #38
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Miguel,

Which byte(0-9) in 04367, 04368, 04369 did you put 112???

thanks,

Lito
just to complement Ray's explanation... 04367 is an 8 bit mem. address and 112 is an 8 bit value... when reading, you usually read 10 at a time, if you have the spreadsheet yo will se rows with 10 adresses... but when writing, you only write one at a time. As values are written 3 times (for redundancy, I guess) then it is three writes what you have to do. There is no notion of byte n in a single memory address... just in case we could speak about bit 7 to bit 0.
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Old December 14th, 2006, 08:09   #39
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You're saying input 04367, 04368, 04369 here...




And enter the value 112 at each location(04367,..68..69), right??

This will activate the Alarm Horn H12
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You're saying input 04367, 04368, 04369 here...




And enter the value 112 at each location(04367,..68..69), right??

This will activate the Alarm Horn H12
More or less... the operation must be repeated three times:

27 Eeprom serial write
Address: 4367
Value: 112 or $70 (if you want to put hexadecimal format, must prefix with $ sign)
OK

27 Eeprom serial write
Address: 4368
Value: 112 or $70 (if you want to put hexadecimal format, must prefix with $ sign)
OK

27 Eeprom serial write
Address: 4369
Value: 112 or $70 (if you want to put hexadecimal format, must prefix with $ sign)
OK

The $ sign works also for addresses... 04367 ==> $110F. Hope this helps!

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Old December 14th, 2006, 08:58   #41
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Got it! 112...will try later tonight.
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Got it! 112...will try later tonight.
Good luck! Come-on! :-)
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Old December 14th, 2006, 10:38   #43
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Good luck! Come-on! :-)
I'm back home from my trip, and I will try this tonight as well, for both the DWA and IRÜ.

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Old December 15th, 2006, 15:32   #44
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Hello, for those installing the DWA... Lito and Phil... how is it going? Just in case it does not work for you, try activating the interior monitoring, even although you do not have them installed... I am telling this because I have realized that in the comfort schematic it says that the electronic horn always comes with interior monitoring... I don't really know if it is a requirement for the CCM (which I personally do not think so) or it is a marketing imposition... I cannot tell u for sure because I went for the DWA after the interior monitoring :-(

I am impatient to hear that it worked for u on the first try ;-) Good luck with that!
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Old December 15th, 2006, 16:48   #45
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Just curious - Lito & Phil, where did you get the horn and motion detecting bits? I've checked on the horn at least and can order it through the US parts system, but it's a bit pricey when new ($156) just for some unique alarm chirps. Do you have any better suggestions for sources? I haven't checked worldwide eBay yet...
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