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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old October 29th, 2010, 13:11   #61
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Question was asked at the bottom of page 3 but I haven't seen the answer - What is the Torque for the fill and drain plugs please?

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Old October 29th, 2010, 13:50   #62
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What is the Torque for the fill and drain plugs please?
See Runonbeer's "Frequently Asked Torque Specs":

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=76249
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Old October 29th, 2010, 15:25   #63
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Found it, thanks;
17mm allen (Hex) bolts, fill and drain plugs on manual transmission: 18 lbs-ft
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Old November 1st, 2010, 16:55   #64
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careful with the torque wrench, the aluminum threads can strip . just snag it down, it;s not going anywhere
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 08:06   #65
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I couldn't find a torque spec in the Bentley (Maintenance section, page 0-41, or the torque tables in section 34), but yeah... it's sure not much. Finger tight + 1/4 ~ 1/2 turn, IME.
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Old November 2nd, 2010, 09:14   #66
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Did this over the weekend. Thanks for the great writeup!
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Old February 20th, 2011, 21:49   #67
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Does anyone have the latest VW numbers on the fluid?? I went to the stealer and they tried to sell me a g60 or g70 something... Do not remember which one. Do the bottles from the dealer say G-4 on them? I have heard that G-5 is a no-no. Also on an MK4 can you fill it to the fill hole and call it good or was there a tsb on these cars too??
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Old February 21st, 2011, 04:12   #68
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I did this a week or so ago.

The old gear oil didn't look bad, so I wondered if changing it would improve anything.

New transmission oil definitely made a difference. The shifting has always been smooth, and I haven't noticed a change in that, but the sound of the transmission has changed quite a bit.

There has been something like a harmonic rumble or whine accelerating hard from low rpm's and at high rpm's around 4,000. That has diminished by maybe 75% since the transmission oil change.

There's still some of that harmonic noise remaining, however. I wonder if I should run this new gear oil for a few thousand miles and then change it again so all the oil gear oil will be completely flushed out.

Any comments?

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Old February 21st, 2011, 04:16   #69
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From idparts.com, here's the current manual transmission fluid. It replaces all previous specification versions:

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OEM G 070 Manual Transmission Fluid $13.65

This is the latest generation of VW's multi-weight transmission fluid for manual transmissions in all VW TDIs.
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Old March 26th, 2011, 10:17   #70
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I did this a week or so ago.

The old gear oil didn't look bad, so I wondered if changing it would improve anything.

New transmission oil definitely made a difference. The shifting has always been smooth, and I haven't noticed a change in that, but the sound of the transmission has changed quite a bit.

There has been something like a harmonic rumble or whine accelerating hard from low rpm's and at high rpm's around 4,000. That has diminished by maybe 75% since the transmission oil change.

There's still some of that harmonic noise remaining, however. I wonder if I should run this new gear oil for a few thousand miles and then change it again so all the oil gear oil will be completely flushed out.

Any comments?

Thanks!

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The VW factory manual for the B4 says to top off at the filler hole, then drive it for a few minutes, and make sure to top it off again. Maybe that will remove the last of your noise-to top it off?

Doing a "flush" is always an option, but I'd do it with a dino. 75-90 and just a short drive. Real short, then drain again if you feel like it, but to each their own time and money. Nothing wrong with being too thorough IMO.

I found my drain/fill plugs needed to be removed with a 3/4" breaker bar, after soaking in Kroil for 2 hours. Onwards.
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Old July 25th, 2011, 15:21   #71
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How about the Mobil1 75w90 gear oil?
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/..._75W-90LS.aspx

The site says it's GL-5, is that bad, if VW says GL-4?
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Old July 25th, 2011, 15:22   #72
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Do not use GL5 oil.

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Old July 31st, 2011, 07:43   #73
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This is a nice write-up. I just did mine yesterday with G60 fluid purchased from world impex. Fluid was the color of pancake syrup and I used a cheap pump from autozone to pump the new fluid into the fill hole. The new fluid is almost completely clear and both the drain and fill plugs had a noticeable film on them that was quickly removed with some brake parts cleaner. Trans seems to shift well if not a little better than before the change. With 129k on the clock I figured I would tackle this sooner than later.

This is fairly easy and good PM IMO.
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Old July 31st, 2011, 10:54   #74
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I've been reading conflicting information on the GL-5 issue. Sure, GL-5 has twice the sulfur and phosphorous extreme pressure anti-wear package as GL-4 but also has corrosion inhibitors to offset the yellow metal wear issue.

Aaron at Bora Parts sells Lubro-Moly GL-5 with the gear swap kits which is what I recently used. I have much better shifting, might be the old oil appeared very thin and brown. No water or chips noted, just a considerable film over the parts under the 5th gear cover. The OCD side of my brain thinks another swap in say, 8000 miles, might be a good idea to clean out the remaining crud. I'll keep note of synchro wear on 5th.
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 08:06   #75
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I'm having a heck of a time finding GL-4 rated fluid. I'm wondering if this is one of those issues where the Internet is to blame. Before all this info I would have read the bottle and thought "cool - this exceeds the spec required when they built the car". Now you can read all these theories about extra additives, bushing wear, etc and I will not be able to sleep at night if I put GL-5 in. AAAAHHHH!!!

Kinda like self diagnosing yourself on the medical sites. Just not a good idea.
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