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VW MKIII-A3/B4 TDIs This is a discussion about MKIII-A3/MkIII Jetta/Golf (<99.5) and B4 Passats (96,97) TDI's. Non TDI related postings will be moved or removed.

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Old November 16th, 2005, 09:18   #16
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I believe the bottom seal is the same as the top seal, it is in the kit I got.
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Old November 16th, 2005, 20:25   #17
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Bottom seal looks different in the kit I got
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Old November 17th, 2005, 05:40   #18
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The lower seal PN. is 2 460 206 009. The upper is 2 461 015 008. Both are in kit 2 467 010 003.
I have an exploded view of the pump with part numbers. Email me and I'll send it to anyone that wants it.
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Old December 1st, 2005, 14:37   #19
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where are you getting these seal kits for the IP's? i dont know where to get one and turbo kits too? thanks
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Old December 5th, 2005, 05:26   #20
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I got a kit from a local diesel engine repair shop (R&R Engine 330-724-5526). They work on everything from VW pumps to semis. Find someting like that or a Bosch shop.
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Old March 25th, 2006, 15:19   #21
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OK my pump may be leaking from the cover also, but it appears to be leaking form a ?? 13mm bolt, in the side of the pump between the pump and the block. The following pix shows a red arrow the points to where the bolt is. The bolt head is just below the cover where the arrow is(yes I borrowed the pix).

Also can someone provide a web site/phone # and kit number from a PO. Found this in another post, will try it.
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H. G. Makelin Co., 714-978-0071, sells:
Bosch seal kit PN: 2-467-010-003-000.
Bosch socket (for special bolt head) PN: 0-986-612-605. Metalnerd's version is cheaper.
I need to order a cover gasket..., drive shafts seals and the seal the ?? 13 mm bolt.
Also if I remove the bolt does my pump self-destruct!


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Old March 31st, 2006, 18:37   #22
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Is there a seal that fits on the input shaft behind the pump pulley on the input shaft and case? My rabbit had one and I replaced that when it leaked.

The cover seal - gasket is 3.50 from worldimpex
http://www.worldimpex.com/search_by_...0717A&x=18&y=9
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Old April 1st, 2006, 05:12   #23
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The input shaft seal PN. is 2 460 283 001.

I think there is a seal for that bolt. PN. 1 460 105 307 and it's in the kit I mentioned. 2 467 010 003.
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Old April 1st, 2006, 07:21   #24
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cover seal, $3.52

http://worldimpex.com/search_by_part...0717a&x=11&y=2


!!!!!!!! This was wrong part for my car !!!!!!!!!!

\The seal I need is on right, the one I ordered and rec is on left.
http://home.att.net/~acr400/two_seals.JPG
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Old April 15th, 2006, 05:42   #25
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~two weeks later:


http://home.att.net/~acr400/two_seals.JPG

Ok 98 jetta (tdi), went to VW they ordered both seals that were listed for this car.

First attempt: wrong > 028 130 717 A

Second attempt: wrong > 068 198 051 A (contained a number of seals) not for my pump

Third attempt: going to VW tomorrow with my collection of seals 4/15/06

Forth attempt: I ordered a "kit" from local bosch jobber with the numbers in the post back a bit. He said about 40$, I'm hoping it has some cross referencing gaskets for different pumps.
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Old April 27th, 2006, 04:39   #26
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Ok got proper seal + whole kit (2.52 + 18 + 14 shipping, Mack Boring in Springfield/Union NJ).

When I assembled the lower cover there is a hanging pendulum arm that seems to fit into a sliding circular thick washer with a hole in it.

1- I assume that the hanging arm needs to fit in the hole, true?
2- It is not possible to see the final allignment, I think that I have it but you never know. Car starts and idles, I did not get to setting the pump volume with the Hammer. Just wanted to check on this issue before I run it too long
3- would car run if I did not have proper allignment?

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Old June 9th, 2006, 14:24   #27
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I replaced my injector pump seals last week, many thanks to redtdi966, kneebull, & Audi5000TDI. I have just a couple things to add, that might be of some value.

As mentioned in the HOW-TO for replacing the pump seals, be sure and inspect the coolant hoses below the pump. One of mine was in desparate need of replacement:


In reading some other posts, this seems to be the hose that is most frequently compromised by leaks from the injector pump. It's a 3-way hose that goes between the water pump, head, and oil cooler. If yours is damaged, the replacement hose is part # 028 121 053 Q. $20 from www.autohausaz.com (look here) or $90+ from the dealer .


Here's a picture of the parts included in Bosch Kit 2 467 010 003-000. You can see the difference between the top cover seal (right), and the quantity adjuster seal (left). The kit should be available from your local Bosch dealer for ~$18. Be sure you're getting the correct kit - the Bosch dealer initially told me i needed kit DGK-126, but that kit only has one of the 2 seals!


Also, be aware that diesel may wash away the ink you use to mark the position of the quantity adjuster. Redtdi966 warned about this, and i used a sharp scribe to mark the pump/quantity adjuster in several places before taking it apart. I also used a black Sharpie to mark the lower left corner (as described in the HOW-TO) but the diesel washed part of that mark away. If you use a scribe to mark the pump, be sure you're looking from the same angle when you go to line up the marks again - the position can be deceiving if you're looking from the side.

One thing i should have done differently - before taking the pump apart, disconnect the fuel lines at the fuel filter, and use your MityVac to pump fuel OUT of the injector pump body. I didn't, and when i opened the pump, i ended up spilling diesel all over the coolant hose i had just replaced .

I didn't have the torque specs for the cover/QA bolts, so i put them back on by "feel" - does anyone know what the torque for those bolts should be?

One week & 500+ miles later, all's well - not even the tiniest drip.

Good luck!
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Old July 13th, 2006, 08:21   #28
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Picked up a "DGK-126" kit, was totally useless. It only had one seal that looked remotely close to fitting and in the end it didn't. I did however have them check into the top seal because at the time I assumed that the bottom one in the DGK-126 kit was going to fit. The "top seal" that they ordered ended up fitting the bottom quantity adjuster portion of the pump. I squeezed the other seal in the kit into the top cover ( I trimmed the little nubs off ) and it actually is sealing until I get the correct one from VW ( 028 130 717A ). Took a little hammering back and forth till I got the IQ exactly right.

In summary, the two correct part numbers needed for the two most common seals are as follows:

Bottom: 2 460 206 009-000 - No VW equivalent?
Top: 2 461 015 008-000 - 028 130 717A

DGk-126 Kit - Useless unless you want the copper washers and other assorted o-rings and stuff...

FWIW- Boston Fuel Injection in Chelsea got the parts for me, they were real good about everything but they did get it wrong and weren't able to find the 2 467 010 003 kit everyone talks about...

BTW - I wish I just checked Dieselgeeks site first, would have saved me some hassle...
http://www.dieselgeek.com/Categories...=TDI+Injection

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Old July 27th, 2006, 03:06   #29
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Impex has the top gasket for $2.62, but do not have the kit nor bottom gasket. John did say he would try to get some kits in stock.
DG has both top and bottom gasket for $9.00 a piece.
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Old July 31st, 2006, 16:39   #30
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Also don't use lucas fuel injector cleaner it says on the bottle for diesel but I started using it and my injector started leaking. Just giving you guys a heads up.
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