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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old January 22nd, 2003, 14:09   #1
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Default Best Diesel Fuel Additive?

What do you folks think is the best diesel additive for the cold?
- Amsoil
- Standyne
- Powerservice
- Other .....

I currently use Powerservice for my truck. Just curious if it would be good stuff for the little VW diesel.
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 14:14   #2
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Opinions vary. I'm very happy with white-bottle Powerservice. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 14:25   #3
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I have been using (120K + miles) Power Service Diesel Fuel Supplement and have switched to Diesel Kleen about a year ago and have been happy with their products. I mix at the double dose rate (150 gals diesel = 96 ozs. (3.1 gals to 2 ozs.). I have checked my mileage with and without additive and I get 1 more mile per gallon with additive, so it pays for itself. I also get a better running TDI.
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 14:49   #4
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Stanadyne Performance Formula

The Amsoil stuff is made for Amsoil by Stanadyne. The PowerService stuff, last I knew, was mostly diesel fuel.

The Stanadyne Perf. Formula is built on a base of lube oil/cleaner/solvents, with appropriate additives for the other properties.

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Old January 22nd, 2003, 14:53   #5
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Funny,

The Power Service neither looks nor smells like Diesel Fuel.

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Old January 22nd, 2003, 14:59   #6
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If you add 1 gallon of #1 diesel per 10 of fuel, it will increase your mileage ~10%.
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 18:22   #7
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If you add 1 gallon of #1 diesel per 10 of fuel, it will increase your mileage ~10%.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">In reality it will decrease your fuel mileage by at least 10%.
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 18:35   #8
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I have found FPPF Total Power very nice to work with...

Total Power is a combination of the technology of Fuel Power, Polar Power, Diesel Injector Cleaner, Cetane 8+, and includes a lubricity additive.

Contains Fuel Power
Lowers CFPP
Contains anti-gel
Lowers pour point
Cleans injectors
Raises cetane
Meets L-10
Meets A.S.T.M. B.O.C.L.E.
Meets N-14
Contains No Alcohols!
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 18:47   #9
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"We produce complete premium diesel packages in addition to products designed to address specific fuel deficiencies. Our fuel treatment products correct such deficiencies as poor storage stability, low cetane, inadequate cold temperature handling and filterability, microorganism infestation, insufficient detergency or lubricity and water contamination. We have products for diesel fuel, bunker fuel, home-heating oil and gasoline. We offer products that will de-wax or de-ice, we have a tetraethyl lead substitute for older off-road gasoline engines and even a unique and exclusive lubricity agent made from a blend of three renewable agricultural products."

link to .pdf for Primrose #405

*This is a fuel additive that contains a water emulsifer.

*Primrose #409 is the winter version of #405.
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 18:55   #10
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[img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] Primerose how much a bottle? Could you please advise who sells it?.....FPPF told me, " Fuel Power, Polar Power, Total Power, and several of our other fuel additives contain a water dispersant that completely gets rid of water, by turning it into a combustible substance that can be burned along with the rest of the fuel. No further water removal is necessary.
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 19:14   #11
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loggin, I purchased a case directly from Primrose. It is about $3.50 or so per bottle. 1 bottle is good for 12 Jetta fillups so that case I have is a lifetime supply. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] The stuff is very concentrated.

You can check in with George Morrison over at avlube.com. He had suggested they were going to start selling it again.

FPPF and Primrose both deal with water by means of an emulsifier.

DIESEL ON!! and may your fuel be dry without relying upon your OE "water separator"! [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old January 22nd, 2003, 19:20   #12
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Thanks!!! BTW u said,...."It is about $3.50 or so per bottle"......is that 32oz.?
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Old January 23rd, 2003, 03:25   #13
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Just wondering what happens if you were to use a mixture of 50% # 1 diesel with 50% 2 diesel for the winter months.
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Old January 23rd, 2003, 05:16   #14
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I use John Deere Premium Diesel Fuel Conditioner Product # TY16231. They have winter formula and summer formula. Use it all year long.
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Old January 23rd, 2003, 09:46   #15
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When I said adding 1 gallon #1 per 10 gallons of fuel will increase your mileage `10%, I'm using the usual computation where you don't count the additive as part of the burned fuel in your mileage computation.
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