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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old June 5th, 2005, 21:18   #1
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Uggh..

2003 Jetta, PP520's, Ups Stage 2.. that's it for mods. Car's been great for months and months.

Car goes to Tahoe (live in the bay area/SF, CA), gets parked by valet... When the car comes back it spews white smoke, has no power, and smells dreadful.

I searched for maf/maf problems, no hits came back.. very odd, maybe the search function is broken... Read the FAQ, just got VAG-COM, so I checked engine/measuring block 003, and the numbers that it reported were 280/285, which seemed to match what the faq says is just fine.

So I'm in need of places to go look. The car is very hard to start, as I need to have the throttle down 1/4 or so to even get it to start.

Thanks in advance everyone.
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Old June 5th, 2005, 23:49   #2
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is it definatley white smoke and not water vapour / steam ?
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Old June 6th, 2005, 00:41   #3
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White smoke should mean a duff injector (or possibly delivery valve?) or more likely VERY retarded timing.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 08:08   #4
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Sounds like timing to me. Check to make sure you have the timing set right. You should be able to check it with a VAG-COM.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 09:48   #5
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It is defintiely white smoke, doesn't seem water related at all.

Just curious how timing could go "that bad" so quick, with no changes to the car, if that is indeed the issue.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 11:16   #6
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could be a belt slipped a tooth...
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Old June 6th, 2005, 14:30   #7
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The saga gets better (well... worse really)

While there is oil pressure, it wasn't right, around 40psi, bouncing erradically, etc.

Checked oil... Don't know where the oil pressure is coming from, but there was no oil on the dipstick, and it took 4 freaking quarts (oil was changed about 3k ago).

No oil leaks that I know of in the car, doesn't use oil (until now), no oil on the ground.

Put oil in it, oil pressure comes back up, this is good.

Last but certainly not least... No boost. None.

This all adds up to doesn't sound good
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Old June 6th, 2005, 14:53   #8
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Dont start it again untill you've checked your intercooler.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 15:12   #9
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You blew your turbo. Don't started it or you could hydrolock your engine. Your 3 qts of oil are in the intake.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 16:32   #10
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Have you even considered notifying the Casino/Hotel about this sudden catastrophic failure after their valet 'responsibly' drove your car? The 'valet' stories are legandary and you may have just become victim to one. Sounds very much like your turbo blew. Don't drive or start as you risk hydrolock. I would get a professional diagnosis and have your lawer immediately contact the employers of the valet service. Get affidavits from witnesses that support your version of the event. Any evidence of abuse or negligence on their part would be extremely important. Good luck... don't start the car...
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Old June 6th, 2005, 16:44   #11
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If a valet could blow a turbo in less than one mile with your mods, something was wrong to begin with. I was a valet, and I wouldn't let one drive my car, but think about it. This sucks, I'm sorry. Take it out on vw or garret.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 16:51   #12
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Buzz...

Call this place and schedule appointment:

Aaron Howe owns Advanced Audi VW:
415.901.7270
1218 Michigan Street (between 24th & 25th)
San Francisco, CA 94110
http://www.advancedaudivwservice.com/auto.html

This is your best bet in town when it comes to someone who actually knows TDIs! Tell them you are TDIClub member.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 22:42   #13
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Hey Beta... I truly don't advocate frivolous lawsuits. Truth is, this unlucky event might have just happened to strike on the valet's watch. At the very least, it seems the responsible thing to do would be to notify the owner of the incident. I think everyone understands why the valet would be reluctant to do so. I, for one, am skeptical that the valet failed to notice anything was wrong if, indeed, the turbo blew while he was driving. All I advocate is finding out the truth.
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Old June 6th, 2005, 23:16   #14
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I apologize fly, after rereading your post I see you didn't suggest a lawsuit. Furthermore, I understand you live in Tacoma.
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Old June 7th, 2005, 00:29   #15
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Hey, no problem... I think frivolous is the key word here. If, indeed, there is any evidence of the valet driving the car in a reckless, abusive or negligent fashion, I would be inclined to follow up on it. Lacking any verifiable evidence, this could just be a case of bad luck. Sometimes things just fail. Regardless, I just hope Buzz finds the most painfree solution to his broken car.
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