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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old December 15th, 2017, 22:24   #16
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Sure seems like a weird design. That bearing is trying to punch through that bushing with every excursion.

The bushing is rubber, the bearing metal. Isn't that a recipe or rapid wear?

Do you guys grease the surfaces at all? Anything I can do to reduce wear-rate?

Wouldn't it be better to have a lining inside the bushing, where the bearing hits, to distribute forces and protect the rubber? Maybe nylon or teflon?
The bearing looks broken as I see the small ball bearings exposed. The bearing is a smooth shell of some plastic looking material. Here is a close up from idparts.com. It goes right under the hard rubber bushing and on top of the metal plate that holds the coil spring in place. A shouldered nut holds the bushing to the bearing, and then to the plate.

Look around 13:30 onward in this video for how it goes together.
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Old December 16th, 2017, 07:17   #17
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Yes, I studied the schematic, I know how it goes together.

Took the top 2 nuts off, driver's side. The top nut is correct, bottom is NOT.

Looks almost like a nylon lock nut from the hardware store. No shoulder. Grrr.

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Old December 16th, 2017, 07:43   #18
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Yes, they started doing it that way way back with the A2 cars in 1985. A3s and A4s are the same way. Sometimes the mount sticks in the body when you lift the car up, sometimes it drops out. When they drop out is when the confusion starts, if you did not understand that was normal for them.
Thanks for the explanation. I thought there was something wrong with my car. Heh...
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Old December 16th, 2017, 08:02   #19
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Old bushing pretty squished.

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Old December 16th, 2017, 08:24   #20
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One shouldered nut and one non-shouldered is correct, but if I am understanding your description it sounds like they were put on in the wrong order. See here for photos:
http://www.fixmyvw.com/front-strut-b...fast-and-easy/
It is probably important that the lower nut be the shouldered one, so it supports the full surface of the bearing. I think this is why the upper case of your bearing looks busted in the first photo.

Your springs are losing their coating but they can go a while like that, so you could put it off until spring.
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Old December 16th, 2017, 08:46   #21
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Correct. PO had shoulder nut on top.

Back together. Much better. Note 2" lift spacer.

Bearing sits like a washer on top of the strut shaft shoulder.

How are you supposed to torque these things to 44lbs? Can't hold the 7mm hex still with any kind of torque wrench on either nut...




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Apparently the passenger's side is harder b/c the frame gets in the way. Any tips on that?
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BTW, the shoulder nut fits just fine through the bushing (new or old).

No need to swap nuts per DIY linked above.
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Axle hits frame. Why not just pry down on the spring a bit? Just need to woodgie that old bushing out...

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[QUOTE=rbptdi;5360135]Axle hits frame. Why not just pry down on the spring a bit? Just need to woodgie that old bushing out...



Dunno if my remembery is serving me right but either turn wheels all the way to the left and slip the cv out the hub or take the front and rear inner a arm bolts out give you more room to take it out.
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Old December 16th, 2017, 10:52   #26
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That's where spring compressors come in handy. If you can't manage to slip it out or get compressors, some people drop the subframe just a 1/2" or so which gives clearance, as an alternative to messing with the axle.

I don't think moving the control arm gets you anything, and brings in the risk of breaking off the captive nut inside the subframe.
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I had good luck just prying on the top of the spring with a 2x3 to get the old bushing out. Trying to get the new one back in now. Stand by.
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All set. Good as new. Tight and quiet. Too bad the inspection place closed at 1pm.

No 'shredded bearings' at all, btw. Just a little twisted rubber. Everything was normal, but worn, with nuts flipped.

The 2x3 pry worked for me, but only b/c I had the lift kit. YMMV

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Only problem is, now I can hear the rear mounts.
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