I think I'm going to retire the TDI. (Both of them)

98 VW Jetta TDI

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Joined
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Location
Western New York
TDI
1998 Jetta TDI
Hi all,
Remember that 98 Jetta TDI that I was having trouble timing a couple months ago?
Well to give the quick description for the 9 month span:
-Bought car in December, Ran fine.
-Day after purchase, car won't start.
-Timing belt is worn out/overdue, I had no idea.
-Do the timing myself, and have tremendous trouble even with the correct tools.
-Finally get it close. Close enough to fire right up.
-Drove it like 200ish miles, then one day it would not start.
-Check timing, Crank and cam line up but IP is off.
-Took car to shop. Pay them $$. They time it, I bring it home.
-Next day, car won't start.
-Check with VCDS and its too advanced to be plotted.
-Took it back to shop. They time it like 20 times but the pump wouldn't hold the timing.
-I buy my friends running and driving 97 TDI with 400k miles for $325. (The pump was replaced around 200k miles. Proved by receipt)
-I bring the pump from that car to the shop. They R&R pump and re-time.
-Held timing. Started and ran fine. Waiting for the bill from the shop to pay even more $$!.
-I bring car home again, inspection is ran out.
-I bring to inspection station, WILL NOT PASS. They said P1248, no description available.
-I hook up VCDS for code reading and get the following info:

VCDS-Lite Version: Release 1.2
Monday, 14 September 2015, 14:40:19:0
Control Module Part Number: 028 906 021 JB
Component and/or Version: 1,9l R4 EDC G00SG 1457
Software Coding: 00002
Work Shop Code: WSC 00066
VCID: 58C30B63AB0B
4 Faults Found:
00550 - Start of Injection Regulation
17-10 - Control Difference - Intermittent
01117 - Generator Terminal DF Load Signal
27-00 - Implausible Signal
00750 - Warning Lamp
31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
00560 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation System
17-10 - Control Difference - Intermittent

-I check the timing graph AGAIN, and it says "too advanced to be plotted."

At this point, the car starts fine!! Runs fine!!! Fired up instantly this morning in 50 F temp! Also starts great when hot!! What gives??

As I said, now I own two identical TDI's and I can't use either one.
I don't want to take it back to the shop again. (It's my bosses brother's place) :/ lol

The EGR has been cleaned out by myself and it's all freed up in there...
At this point I have a $700 TDI and a $325 TDI, plus another $1500 in parts I replaced, repairs, labor, etc., $25 in a failed inspection, plus my own valuable hours of time haha. And most likely more $$ for the most recent re-timing job. Depending on if he charges me for doing it twice. (We'll see) He's the only one around here that will touch a TDI!

I'm sorry for the long complaint filled post...
But I was wondering if any of you have any insight on getting this stupid car to pass the NYS inspection?? :(
 
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Windex

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Joined
Apr 1, 2006
Location
Cambridge
TDI
05 B5V 01E FRF
When you changed the timing belt, did you take off and inspect the crank gear?

Your symptoms are very common in cars with a "walking" crank sprocket.
 

tdidieselbobny

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Joined
Apr 4, 2005
Location
Stafford,NY (WNY)
TDI
'03 Galactic Blue Jetta TDI, '15 Silk Blue Golf Sportwagen TDI
Is Freedom south of Arcade? There was a guy on Buffalo craigslist who was advertising he'd do work on VW's(TDI's & gassers)-I also think member BoostingPerformance is somewhat close to you. Did you leave any lines disconnected in the egr pathway? Check the one that's on the hard plastic tubes that go to intercooler-did everything else pass inspection? You can get away w/ 2 not ready monitors on a 98.My son has soccer games Tues,Thurs.,and Sat. nights-pm me your# and depending on work on Weds.,I wouldn't mind coming down Weds late afternoon/early evening-I'm not versed in Vag-Com,I just watch experts use it ,but maybe an extra set of eyes from a former A3 owner might see something....Just checked-BoostingPerformance(Andrew) is the same guy on craigslist.....
 
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TonyJetta

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Joined
Sep 15, 2005
Location
Tucson, Az
TDI
'15 Jetta TDI SE / '06 Jetta TDI DSG Pkg0 / '96 Passat TDI
Your symptoms are very common in cars with a "walking" crank sprocket.
I was about to suggest that, too.

If that is the cause, I would also change the alternator pulley over to a clutched or over-run pulley. Gates 37010P After the change, my serpentine tensioner hardly moves.

Tony
 
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