itsmejerry
Veteran Member
- Joined
- Sep 6, 2002
- Location
- Birmingham, AL
- TDI
- 2015 Passat SE TDI Nav, 2015 Passat SE TDI, 2015 Beetle Convertible TDI, 2015 Golf Sportwagen TDI All Phase 2 Emission Modified complete. 50 State Legal Diesel!
Hello folks.
I just purchased 3 2015 "fixed" VW tdis. A Beetle Convertible, A Golf Sportwagen and a Passat.
I also own 2 of the non-fixed models that we are in the process of selling back to VW. A 2011 and a 2013 Jetta Sportwagen and should have them for a few more weeks.
My house looks like a VW dealership, even more so when the inlaws come over in their Tiguan. Anyway.. until I get the existing ones sold back, I thought I'd compare the fixed and non-fixed models.
First, the fixed models have a sticker on the underside of the hood showing the dates, dealership and dealership code that did the repair. Mine were all done from 4-13 to 4-17/2017.
I was curious about differences in performance and fuel economy (if any) between the fixed and the non-fixed versions of this engine, and because with 5 vehicles, I think I have a fairly large enough sample to make a decent comparison between them.
First, all my cars are bone stock. Unmodified in any way.
Secondly, as the only driver of my 2013 and so far the only driver of the Beetle and Passat, I think my driving habits can be ruled consistent enough for a comparison.
I keep up with mileage, and average 44-45 mpg per tank when I fill up in my 2013 Jetta. I do actual math with the trip odometer, and dont rely on the trip computer, which always seems to show 2 mpg higher than real numbers.
Yesterday, the 3 vehicles were delivered to my house from the dealership 150 miles away.
I used the automaticly generated setting on the The trip computer on the "1" fuel economy box (meaning it was just for that day, from the time the car was first started in the morning until it reached my driveway).
The trip was 95% highway, and included some state highways and secondary roads with long rolling hills, with speedlimits of 65 mph. But I dont know what speeds or how the cars were driven.
The three "new" cars were driven by 3 different drivers so, I didnt expect identical results.
Results on Day 1- 150 miles 3 separate drivers (As indicated by trip computer)
1. Passat (with 372 miles on the odometer) 46.6 mpg with an average speed of 57 mph (computer indicated).
2. Beetle Convertible (478 miles on the odometer) 45.2 mpg
3. Golf Sportwagen (388 miles on the odometer) 47.2 mpg
So, at least on this trip, which took about 3 hours, the cars delivered higher than rated fuel economy. Kind of suprising since the new engines typically improve in mileage as they break in.
Today, I took the Beetle out on a 30 mile drive, and reset the trip computer as I started. I drove the speed limit in town, going stop light to stoplight for 3 miles, then got on the interstate and made a 10 mile journey (with the top down of course). 90 F day. No A/C. and a return trip back home.
During that trip, the trip computer eventually worked its way up to an average of 50.1 mpg before I exited the interstate, did a U-turn and headed back up the same interstate, and on to make the 3 mile city street journey. I got home and it showed 46.2. (lots of traffic lights).
Performance: Hard acceleration
In the Beetle, I noticed no real difference between hard acceleration (full pedal, sport mode) 0-45 than with my Jetta SPortwagen. EXCEPT... And that it *seemed* like right before the gear switched from 2-3 and 3-4 that there was an ever-so-slight delay in fuel delivery right before the gear switched. My wife can't feel it, and I'm not 100% sure it's there, but I sort of felt something. sort of. maybe.
Performance: Normal Driving
None.
It's early, and I know you cant tell after one trip, but I dreaded that "Fix" and thought it would kill my mileage and/or performance.
So far--it hasnt.
I'm pretty well pleased with the fix so far, and hopefully when they do phase 2, it'll remain unchanged.
I'll keep you posted.
I just purchased 3 2015 "fixed" VW tdis. A Beetle Convertible, A Golf Sportwagen and a Passat.
I also own 2 of the non-fixed models that we are in the process of selling back to VW. A 2011 and a 2013 Jetta Sportwagen and should have them for a few more weeks.
My house looks like a VW dealership, even more so when the inlaws come over in their Tiguan. Anyway.. until I get the existing ones sold back, I thought I'd compare the fixed and non-fixed models.
First, the fixed models have a sticker on the underside of the hood showing the dates, dealership and dealership code that did the repair. Mine were all done from 4-13 to 4-17/2017.
I was curious about differences in performance and fuel economy (if any) between the fixed and the non-fixed versions of this engine, and because with 5 vehicles, I think I have a fairly large enough sample to make a decent comparison between them.
First, all my cars are bone stock. Unmodified in any way.
Secondly, as the only driver of my 2013 and so far the only driver of the Beetle and Passat, I think my driving habits can be ruled consistent enough for a comparison.
I keep up with mileage, and average 44-45 mpg per tank when I fill up in my 2013 Jetta. I do actual math with the trip odometer, and dont rely on the trip computer, which always seems to show 2 mpg higher than real numbers.
Yesterday, the 3 vehicles were delivered to my house from the dealership 150 miles away.
I used the automaticly generated setting on the The trip computer on the "1" fuel economy box (meaning it was just for that day, from the time the car was first started in the morning until it reached my driveway).
The trip was 95% highway, and included some state highways and secondary roads with long rolling hills, with speedlimits of 65 mph. But I dont know what speeds or how the cars were driven.
The three "new" cars were driven by 3 different drivers so, I didnt expect identical results.
Results on Day 1- 150 miles 3 separate drivers (As indicated by trip computer)
1. Passat (with 372 miles on the odometer) 46.6 mpg with an average speed of 57 mph (computer indicated).
2. Beetle Convertible (478 miles on the odometer) 45.2 mpg
3. Golf Sportwagen (388 miles on the odometer) 47.2 mpg
So, at least on this trip, which took about 3 hours, the cars delivered higher than rated fuel economy. Kind of suprising since the new engines typically improve in mileage as they break in.
Today, I took the Beetle out on a 30 mile drive, and reset the trip computer as I started. I drove the speed limit in town, going stop light to stoplight for 3 miles, then got on the interstate and made a 10 mile journey (with the top down of course). 90 F day. No A/C. and a return trip back home.
During that trip, the trip computer eventually worked its way up to an average of 50.1 mpg before I exited the interstate, did a U-turn and headed back up the same interstate, and on to make the 3 mile city street journey. I got home and it showed 46.2. (lots of traffic lights).
Performance: Hard acceleration
In the Beetle, I noticed no real difference between hard acceleration (full pedal, sport mode) 0-45 than with my Jetta SPortwagen. EXCEPT... And that it *seemed* like right before the gear switched from 2-3 and 3-4 that there was an ever-so-slight delay in fuel delivery right before the gear switched. My wife can't feel it, and I'm not 100% sure it's there, but I sort of felt something. sort of. maybe.
Performance: Normal Driving
None.
It's early, and I know you cant tell after one trip, but I dreaded that "Fix" and thought it would kill my mileage and/or performance.
So far--it hasnt.
I'm pretty well pleased with the fix so far, and hopefully when they do phase 2, it'll remain unchanged.
I'll keep you posted.
Sounds like great news as I was concerned about 'post fix' mpg and I don't pick up my 'new' 2015 Golf SW (Manual) for 2 weeks. Dealer said only 'fix' was a reflash of the computer - that is it - plus a checklist from VW to 'awaken' the cars including a new battery and oil/filter change. These cars were snatched up as fast as I could call on them!