Buying a fixed 2014 Golf Wagon TDI

anyone buy a 2014 golf wagon tdi recently? im looking at a few at some VW dealers to take advantage of the 0% financing.

i know to check for rust where the rear fenders meet the bumper, hatch, hood, bottom of front fenders. also i plan on getting dealer to do DSG service and new fuel filter and engine oil/filter.

anything else i should check? the wagon im looking at is a comfortline 2014 with around 70k on it. also how long does the extended warranty last as i plan on doing buzzken dpf delete and tune.

i still miss my 2015 passat but they are way too expensive

If you want to be 100% sure just ask the dealer about the warranty.

imo000 said:

If you want to be 100% sure just ask the dealer about the warranty.

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If they even know themselves... Most don't have a clue

2.2TDI said:

If they even know themselves... Most don't have a clue

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Really?

imo000 said:

Really?

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Yea, dealerships are clueless for the most part, I've worked in enough service departments and realized quickly... Best bet for warranty info is to call vw Canada but I wouldn't rely much on them either. Long story short if anything is flagged as TD1 on your car (meaning you have altered any of the original parameters), the general consensus is you will be out of warranty. Check out vw vortex and golfmk6 and golfmk7 forums. Lots of modded guys who went to "mod friendly" dealers had their warranty rejected because their car got flagged

As for as the time, I understand it's something like 10 years/250000km for emissions and powertrain related items

Link to the settlement document giving emissions system coverage data - best to get it from VW:
https://www.vwcanadasettlement.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MAHEdits--VW_2LGen1_CAN-EN_FINAL.pdf There should be a sticker under the hood with the date the 'fix' was done; clock starts ticking then.


You probably want to make sure this Tech Bulletin was done:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2013/SB-10054868-5146.pdf which fixes the intercooler icing problem (might hydro-lock the engine).



I should be picking up a 2014 Golf Wagon manual Highline with about 36k km this week. I might be doing a tune after a year or so; if you delete, no warranty on expensive things like turbo and fuel pumps so I don't expect to do that until the emissions warranty runs out.

dandywriter said:

Link to the settlement document giving emissions system coverage data - best to get it from VW:
https://www.vwcanadasettlement.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/MAHEdits--VW_2LGen1_CAN-EN_FINAL.pdf There should be a sticker under the hood with the date the 'fix' was done; clock starts ticking then.


You probably want to make sure this Tech Bulletin was done:
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2013/SB-10054868-5146.pdf which fixes the intercooler icing problem (might hydro-lock the engine).



I should be picking up a 2014 Golf Wagon manual Highline with about 36k km this week. I might be doing a tune after a year or so; if you delete, no warranty on expensive things like turbo and fuel pumps so I don't expect to do that until the emissions warranty runs out.

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if i do the deletes and something goes on it, can i revert back to stock and have it fixed under warranty or will they be able to see the ECU was flashed?

wolf1389 said:

if i do the deletes and something goes on it, can i revert back to stock and have it fixed under warranty or will they be able to see the ECU was flashed?

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If they look hard enough everything is visible. You want to scam the manufacturer and you ask this on a public forum?

wolf1389 said:

if i do the deletes and something goes on it, can i revert back to stock and have it fixed under warranty or will they be able to see the ECU was flashed?

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Yes you are screwed regardless of putting everything back to stock. The only tunes that some claim are not visible are piggy back tunes, such as a jb4 from burger tuning (not available for tdi engines), which is a module that you simply connect to the ecu under the hood and remove whenever you want, but even this I haven't read to be 100% safe from being detected.

You want to tune, you can kiss your warranty goodbye, it's as simple as that

my thought process behind this is:

A) do i keep it factory and drive it till 10 years or 190k( likely will reach 190k first) and then do deletes?

B) do DPF delete and tune now and enjoy but now the fuel system and intercooler and turbo are not warrantied.


is it worth taking the risk to tune and possibly have a hpfp failure out of warranty? or shud i drive stock until 190k but by then the high EGTs and EGR can wear out the turbo bearings and clog up the intake manifold and cause problems out of warranty that wouldnt happen if it was deleted.

wolf1389 said:

my thought process behind this is:
A) do i keep it factory and drive it till 10 years or 190k( likely will reach 190k first) and then do deletes?
B) do DPF delete and tune now and enjoy but now the fuel system and intercooler and turbo are not warrantied.
is it worth taking the risk to tune and possibly have a hpfp failure out of warranty? or shud i drive stock until 190k but by then the high EGTs and EGR can wear out the turbo bearings and clog up the intake manifold and cause problems out of warranty that wouldnt happen if it was deleted.

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That's up to you personally. I'm in a similar boat, I plan to do DPF delete and tune but I'm going to wait until my warranty is expired. The thought of having to pay for a HPFP failure out of pocket outweighs my desire to have a tune at the moment!

alext91 said:

That's up to you personally. I'm in a similar boat, I plan to do DPF delete and tune but I'm going to wait until my warranty is expired. The thought of having to pay for a HPFP failure out of pocket outweighs my desire to have a tune at the moment!

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thats the thing though, now you reach 190k km is it worth spending 1500-2k to do the delete?

wolf1389 said:

thats the thing though, now you reach 190k km is it worth spending 1500-2k to do the delete?

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I guess that depends on how long you plan to keep the car, and how quickly you put miles on. Maybe it isn't, but these cars are known for their longevity, so who knows!

i cover 180km a day x5 days a week for work ( 111miles a day. so roughly 555 miles a week in freedom units)

wolf1389 said:

i cover 180km a day x5 days a week for work ( 111miles a day. so roughly 555 miles a week in freedom units)

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You lost me there. Freedom units?

McGuillicuddy said:

You lost me there. Freedom units?

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'A jingoistic way of describing Imperial Units of Measurement. As Imperial units are used by the USA, "

wolf1389 said:

'A jingoistic way of describing Imperial Units of Measurement. As Imperial units are used by the USA, "

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Ironically, aren't "Imperial Units" a standard originally established by the British?


Didn't you yanks fight a War of Independence once upon a time?


.. signed, a neighbourly Canadian!

I just bought a CPO 2014 GSW Wolfsburg manual last week. So far so good...although they are going to install a starter for me on Thursday because there's an intermittent howl upon startup that was missed during the inspection. A dried-up solenoid...a known issue apparently.



Got it from Humberview VW and so far have had a good experience. And they were able to figure out how long my extended warranty is. It's different for every car, depending on circumstance.

BigBadThor said:

I just bought a CPO 2014 GSW Wolfsburg manual last week. So far so good...although they are going to install a starter for me on Thursday because there's an intermittent howl upon startup that was missed during the inspection. A dried-up solenoid...a known issue apparently.



Got it from Humberview VW and so far have had a good experience. And they were able to figure out how long my extended warranty is. It's different for every car, depending on circumstance.

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how so? i think the standard warranty is shown here

https://owners.vwmodels.ca/pdf/VW_2L Gen 1_v2_CAN EN_FINAL.pdf

wolf1389 said:

how so? i think the standard warranty is shown here

https://owners.vwmodels.ca/pdf/VW_2L Gen 1_v2_CAN EN_FINAL.pdf

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Different for every car due to the warranty starting from either the vehicle's original in service date, or the date the "fix" was performed. It isn't that the warranty period is any longer or shorter for cars of the same model year and transmission type.