dieselpower04
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Why do my axles on my 04 Golf look soooooooo much bigger than those??
VR6 axle swap 'How To'
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Bdpprocessors
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FYI autozone has these shafts for 47 each with a core or 98 each outright. its a bit more expensive buying them outright than buying them new but atleast your getting bran new" u " joints in them and they come with a warranty.
LNXGUY
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VR6 and 1.8T axles are identical.. Any MKIV VR6 or 1.8T that's a 5spd will work.
vwsurf
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I bought the Autozone/Discount Auto, only lasted about 20k miles each time. I even bought one from mjm that was around $119. it got about 25k.
Now I'm look for OEM or Raxel. Raxel needs a OEM core.
Kree
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Still got the clunk!
Well.... I thought for sure my CV joints were gone considering when I bought my little Brittney 50k miles ago I knew the boots were gone. So I opted for the VR6 axles. Got to say this is a very easy R&R! I also must say..... That lil" drivers side axle is a heavy MF!!! LOL! Anyways, when I was under her I saw that a bushing on the drivers side LCA is almost gone! like magic i figured out the clunk! Thanks for the how-to, very nice! I did get the 12 point bits at Autozone as well as the large 17mm hex bit used for the drain and fill plugs. the 30mm socket was found at ace hardware, just happens to be across the street from autozone in my lil' town. took me about 5 hrs but that was with breaks with the kids, its an honest 3 hr job. take care yall!
Well.... I thought for sure my CV joints were gone considering when I bought my little Brittney 50k miles ago I knew the boots were gone. So I opted for the VR6 axles. Got to say this is a very easy R&R! I also must say..... That lil" drivers side axle is a heavy MF!!! LOL! Anyways, when I was under her I saw that a bushing on the drivers side LCA is almost gone! like magic i figured out the clunk! Thanks for the how-to, very nice! I did get the 12 point bits at Autozone as well as the large 17mm hex bit used for the drain and fill plugs. the 30mm socket was found at ace hardware, just happens to be across the street from autozone in my lil' town. took me about 5 hrs but that was with breaks with the kids, its an honest 3 hr job. take care yall!
LNXGUY
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Next time use a puller, lol. Works great at pushing the axle through.
TDIJetta99
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An air hammer works wonders for getting the axles to go through.. A puller would be my tool of choice when air isn't available though..
If only the VR6 axles were actually an upgrade LOL.. I went through 3 or 4 axles before I put my old 200k+ axles back in.. Kept breaking inner joints..
If only the VR6 axles were actually an upgrade LOL.. I went through 3 or 4 axles before I put my old 200k+ axles back in.. Kept breaking inner joints..
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TDIJetta99
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I never really examined them closely, but something inside of the inner.. the housing didn't break.. So far my factory axles are still going strong..
Shouse
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I'm trying to source some VR6 axles currently. I have the flanges already. I found these on Vortex. 68k miles supposedly off a car bought at an auction not running (no reason mentioned why). No accidents supposedly. These look good to everyone? Slightly concerned about the rust, not sure what's normal (not from the rust belt).
Thanks
Thanks
LNXGUY
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I wouldn't worry about the rust
Wingnut
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I wouldn't be concerned about the rust either. But the axles do not look the same. What year did those axles come from? Are they from an Auto or manual? The inner joints look nothing alike and the shaft length also seems different (but that could be because of the different inner joint?). I'm not saying they won't work. As long as the flanges bolt up and the overall length is the same, they should be fine. Are the part numbers visible?
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diesel4ever
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Those look like from automatic transmission.I'm trying to source some VR6 axles currently. I have the flanges already. I found these on Vortex. 68k miles supposedly off a car bought at an auction not running (no reason mentioned why). No accidents supposedly. These look good to everyone? Slightly concerned about the rust, not sure what's normal (not from the rust belt).
Thanks
Shouse
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Thanks guys, that would have been a mistake.
Kristofk
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So, how are the oem axles working out? What are your hp/torque figures?
VR6 axles are not an upgrade?
I need to replace my axles and would like to know for sure.
What are the limitations on the 10mm pump? HP/TQ? Will I need upgraded axles? I like to got WOT, a lot...
Kristofk
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Is it worth the upgrade? Is it needed for sub 200 hp?
Kristofk
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Why? Drivetrain not important?
TDIJetta99
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The VR6 inner CV's aren't any stronger than the TDI joints.
Wingnut
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But how about the shafts?
This is from an unmodified TDI:
And the flange bolts are considerably smaller too. I have seen some snap at the flange.
I'm not sure why VW decided to put different axles in the 2.0L and TDI cars vs the 1.8T & VR6 cars. They must have had a reason for it as it saves a lot of $$$ when cars share the same parts. There must have been a need for it. The logical answer is that the higher powered cars got more robust parts. Perhaps the same reasoning behind the 2.0 & TDI cars getting smaller brakes and the 1.8T and VR6 getting much larger brakes??? Probably a cost thing. Make the parts just strong enough for the engine they are mated to.
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If you are worry about bolts, change them to 12.9 and you will be fine for sure. At least I have been with over 500Nm.
The picture is quite blury, but it seems like there is rust in the area where the driveshaft has given up. These kind of problem has also been in many old MB's. Driveshaft snaps just under the boot clamp near the inner joint.
The picture is quite blury, but it seems like there is rust in the area where the driveshaft has given up. These kind of problem has also been in many old MB's. Driveshaft snaps just under the boot clamp near the inner joint.
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Nash_TDI
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The snapped axle looks rusty so prob aftermarket.
I did have plans to do VR6 axles in mine before I went all out and 6spd.
I did have plans to do VR6 axles in mine before I went all out and 6spd.
TDIJetta99
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I'm running stock axles with stock bolts with well over 200whp and sticky tires.. I was able to trash VR6 axles in a few months more than once.
Kristofk
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LNXGUY
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I ran VR6 axles with the same amount of HP/trq for over 200,000kms and no issues.
Either VR6 or stock TDI units are pretty robust.
red16vdub
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Question is when swapping axles from 100mm to 108mm without draining the transmission how fluid should i expect to lose when removing the inner flanges.
LNXGUY
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It's a great excuse to do a tranny drain/fill. Although you don't lose that much if you're quick.