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Old March 13th, 2019, 07:55   #1
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I just replaced the timing belt in my 2005 Beetle TDI plus serpentine belt, and few other items. $1300 (ouch). I told the dealer that’s too expensive and next time I’ll just trade this car for a new car.

EDIT: I don’t mean the manual’s answer. I mean how long it snaps? Doing a search I see some have gone 110,000 until the belt broke.

Once the Beetle is done I’m getting a Inline-6 diesel BMW (used). That thing is powerful.

Thanks :-)

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Old March 13th, 2019, 08:44   #2
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80k on the Pd belt

80k provided of course they changed the water pump and roller and tensioner which dealers have a habit of not doing all of them.

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Old March 13th, 2019, 08:50   #3
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...and over half the price if you go to an independant mechanic. Make sure the dealer replaced everything that they should have.
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Old March 13th, 2019, 09:18   #4
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80k provided of course they changed the water pump and roller and tensioner.
They did replace the water pump. How would I know if they replaced rollers/tensioner?
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Old March 13th, 2019, 09:19   #5
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They did replace the water pump. How would I know if they replaced rollers/tensioner?
Did they list the parts replaced on the invoice?
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Old March 13th, 2019, 09:33   #6
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I have everyone go 100k on the PDs. I've never seen one that made me think otherwise, and have seen a few with over 150k

However the VAST majority of these are piling up a lot of highway miles in a relatively short period of time, which means an easier life on components like the belt.

I know there have been people who have had a belt failure on PDs before 100k, but I would call those outlier exceptions, not the rule.
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I have no data to support this, but I've always thought that VW shortened the interval for PDs from 100K to 80K to encourage people to look for cam wear during the service. Given the component design and use I don't see why the interval would be any shorter than the 100K miles that works for the ALH.
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ALH? The 1999 to 2004 TDI? I drove 50,000 miles last year so a 100K belt would be 2 years from today

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Old March 13th, 2019, 12:21   #9
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Wasn't the belt replacement changed from 2000 to 2001? IIRC, my 2000 beetle had a recommended change at 60k.
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ALH intervals were originally 60K for manual, 40K for automatic
In 2002 they went to 80K manual, 60K automatic (I think)
2003 all belts were 100K miles.
I think today (some 18 years later) you'd be hard pressed to find a 60K mile belt kit. They're all 100K.
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There are always the dealers that insist on changing the t-belt at 40 or 60k miles, whichever is appropriate on your car, just because they want to sell overpriced service rather than recommend what the car really needs.

100k miles on the intervals for my ALH works for me. At the rate I'm driving now, I'll forget how to do one before I hit the next time to change. Oh, wait, there's all the others hanging out at my house...

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Dealers are required to replace a belt with the part number that originally came on the car. So on a 2000 TDI, in the past they would have to put on a 60K belt. However, these days I believe 60K kits are gone, so they have to go with 100K. But they might still tell a customer that the next service is due in 60K. Because that's what the maintenance schedule says.
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Every time I take the jsw to get an oil change, they always put the sticker for next change at 5000 miles. I gave up arguing. My first oil change on the Ram was included but they did the same thing. When the service writer was going over the repair sheet, I handed him the sticker and said I can figure out when the next 10,000 miles are gone better than they can.
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Old March 20th, 2019, 17:56   #14
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fwiw - with my now retired 01 jetta my buddy insisted I do the vw belt at 60/80K but switched to Continentals kit which is supposed to be 100k.


On my now new to me 02 golf the seller told me the dealer did it at 92K and it has 167K - so - C's kit is going in this week .



fwiw 2 - I was pleased ( no problems ) with C's kit .
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I'd be surprised if there are any 60 or 80K timing belt components for ALHs left in the market. Everything has had 100K intervals for many years.
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