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Old May 29th, 2017, 00:03   #421
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Default Civil Lawsuit Against MB Dismissed

"The suit was filed by Hagens Berman Sobol Shapiro, a law firm that specializes in class actions and that previously filed a diesel-emissions suit against G.M. related to the Chevrolet Cruze compact and another against Fiat Chrysler; those suits are pending. A similar suit filed by the firm against Mercedes-Benz was dismissed." -- NYT

Mercedes is not now under any civil or criminal charges or being sued for dieselgate. Apparently, they continue to be investigated:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-40010111

They oddly seem to make no denials in the above BBC report. As if they are saying: sure anything is possible, cows might fly too, and charges might happen, and bears might also go in portopotties.

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Old June 9th, 2017, 11:51   #422
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Has anyone heard of using motorcycle oil in their diesel ?
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http://www.stephensservice.com/bluet...issuesproblems
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Old June 9th, 2017, 15:40   #423
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You’ll also notice motorcycle oil is a lot more expensive than diesel oil. (Some people say it’s more expensive because motorcycle riders are stupid & will pay more.)
Because they're buying a quart or two at a time. Not 8-10 quarts like a BMW or Merc diesel. So yes, he's right that they're willing to pay for it, but not because they're stupid. Just because nobody bats an eye at having to pay $20 for oil for an oil change.
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That's just blatantly not right, belly panels existed looong before all these new diesel regulations and aren't even unique to diesels themselves.
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To comply with the regulations, engineers had to increase the diesel combustion temperature…. a lot!
I'd like to know if this is actually correct. To my knowledge the actual combustion temps haven't gone up that much. However, they have certainly required higher temps in the exhaust post headers. The DPF and cats definitely require high temps, but I wasn't under the impression that combustion temps went up? Even so, combustion temps are waaaaay below anything that a turbo gas engine is putting out.
Otherwise he seems to know what he's talking about. However, remember that this is really meant for the Sprinter vans. Which will be under a much greater load than the engine in an E-class. Guaranteed the E-class engines aren't doing this:
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Only the BlueTec diesel engine has Motor Mount support arms that are filled with a special grey “heat sink” material. They are designed to withstand extremely high heat. Engineers are trying to prevent the extreme engine heat from boiling the oil out of the motor mounts. The motor mounts are hydraulic / fluid filled. The BlueTec engine runs so hot, it melts the grey “heat sink” material that was designed to withstand extreme heat. Grey sludge leaks out under the engine & causes a mess you won’t believe. If the engine runs so hot it can melt this stuff, guess what it’s doing to the oil?
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Old June 30th, 2017, 05:31   #424
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Filled the tank in York SC, 800 miles to Des Plaines IL @ 70-MPH average, still have more than 1/4 tank left. Display indicated 48.0-MPG.
Dealer replaced the main battery.
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Old June 30th, 2017, 06:39   #425
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Filled the tank in York SC, 800 miles to Des Plaines IL @ 70-MPH average, still have more than 1/4 tank left. Display indicated 48.0-MPG.
Hope your brought your trucker's pal!
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Old June 30th, 2017, 18:30   #426
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No, nothing that glamorous. My one and only stop was at a rest stop in Indiana.
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Old July 6th, 2017, 12:55   #427
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http://www.pfjones.co.uk/mercedes-e-...le-towbar.html
I and others have purchased from pfjones and have the bosal or westfalia.
Here are the factory electrics that communicate with the car:
http://www.pfjones.co.uk/mercedes-20...361300113.html
These are both for 2009-2016 e class mercs 4 door. For the wiring kit, I will put this in all caps MAKE SURE YOU GO WITH THE WESTFALIA KIT ONLY AND MAKE SURE IT'S THE 13 PIN. Okay no more shouting. Lol. The westfalia wiring kit is the factory kit and the 13 pin system is more robust. It allows for other fun stuff. Like running a dedicated 12v tap etc. Some of thr features I read were fog disable , auto trailer recognition so lamp monitoring, led light compatible. And trailer stability control. Both my self and another member installed in our mk6. Him in a golf I in a Jetta. It is truly awesome. Well worth the price. The conversion from UK 13 pin to us 4 or 7 is very easy and I can guide any one on here. You essentially buy a male 13 pin adapter off of eBay or amazon for like 10 bucks and you connect a 4 flat or 7 loom to it. It works perfect.

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Old July 9th, 2017, 08:26   #428
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I'm still planning on taking the Bosal harness to a shop that has Autologic for MB, Superformance Auto in West LA, when I get the adapter. If they can install the harness I'll try the hitch, maybe at another shop. Hopefully, IndigoBlueWagon still has it.

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Old July 9th, 2017, 08:38   #429
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I may not be happy about where I'm going, but I go there in a great car. Two years and 25k miles in, except for that loan payment, I bought a beautiful, fabulous car. I move confidently about in this miserable city congestion or weaving down it's freeways. A+ in every department but cheap to buy. I would not drive any other car. They are there on Autotrader at high thirties with 30k on them. Highly recommended by this owner, and by the other 5 or so owners that have spoken here. I dumped the run flats, but I don't think the other 5 has done that and they don't seem to have an issue about them. If I had to have trunk space I'd have to go back to them, but there's enough room left after my full size spare to put the grocery bags in so I'm good.

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Old July 13th, 2017, 18:25   #430
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I've been following this thread and am encouraged.

I picked up a 2005 E320 CDI after selling my A3 TDI back to Audi because I honestly had no idea what to get... I just feel silly getting rid of a perfect E320 after only 6 months of ownership so I'll wait another year before picking up a off lease E250.
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You should drive an E350 before getting rid of your E320. They're very different cars. You may like the 320 better. Also, the 320 responds very well to tuning. Consider that.
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Old July 15th, 2017, 10:10   #432
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I've been following this thread and am encouraged.

I picked up a 2005 E320 CDI after selling my A3 TDI back to Audi because I honestly had no idea what to get... I just feel silly getting rid of a perfect E320 after only 6 months of ownership so I'll wait another year before picking up a off lease E250.
I had a great 2006 Jetta that I never thought I would ever get rid of. I realized it had obsolete small offset crash tests and suddenly did. I traded it in for a better car and am glad for it.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 21:11   #433
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You should drive an E350 before getting rid of your E320. They're very different cars. You may like the 320 better. Also, the 320 responds very well to tuning. Consider that.
I'm sure you meant I should drive a E250...

So I did that today... had some free time to kill and test drove a '14 RWD with about 30K miles on it, silver with black interior.

Pros..
Love the styling, especially the LED headlights
Comfy seats, I'm particular about that since I have a bad back.
Center armrest positioned well.
LOVE the steering wheel.. small diameter and fat.. felt great.
Center dial hand controller for all function so you never have to reach toward the dashboard, great!

Cons..
Really only one... its slow!!! My E320 with almost 200K miles feels like a torque monster compared to this... definitely did not expect that.


2005 E320 CDI
3835 lbs
201hp
369tq
1/4 mile 15.3 at 91mph


2014 E250 Bluetec
4200 lbs
195hp
369tq
1/4 mile 16.1 at 86mph

So basically identical power numbers but the E250 comes in at 400 lbs heavier.. I don't think that is the only thing keeping this car back because the times I've had my car filled with people it still felt pretty torquey.. I have a feeling the weight along with different gearing is making it feel so much slower.


So overall I love the car but definitely disappointed with acceleration. Good thing I'm not buying one tomorrow so I have time to think things thru and test drive other cars.

I want to test drive a 535D next.
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Old July 28th, 2017, 22:16   #434
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Plenty of go for me in heavy city traffic and freeways here. I occasionally use sport mode or downshift with the paddles. But I'm not feeling sluggish, I go fast when I have to, including pulling out into heavy oncoming fast traffic. So I'm not sure what you experienced. Also haven't heard doubts about power from the six or so other owners here. It's also possible your test drive car was in disrepair. On the other hand, I'm not into more power than I need to safely get around town, so maybe you just expect more.

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I did mean E350, the same W212 platform but with the 3.0L six. My impressions is that the W212 feels like a significantly larger car than the W211, and the inline six in the E320 is very smooth and does make a lot of torque. I also think the interior finishes on the E320 may be better.

I've driven low power cars most of my life but the torque in my 335d is very nice. There's nothing like an inline six.
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