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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old November 11th, 2017, 12:30   #3106
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I went with electric drum with the other small trailer.

Bought a voyager inertia controller with override and sensitivity adjustments.

3 wires, done.

It's. Not all fancy and tied into the abs module, but Fer fuk sakes, man has towed a lot of miles without that fancy stuff.

Tow smart. Keep the distance, look ahead. Nuff said.

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Old November 11th, 2017, 12:49   #3107
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Just won an auction on a Kei truck (1992 Subaru Sambar - 1,500 lbs) from a Japanese auction a few hours ago, and I'd like to use the Jetta to pick her up in Long Beach and bring back to Denver.

My question to you all is, how would you tow it?

1) Flat tow the Subaru.

OR

2) Load the Subaru on a 500 lb 5x8 utility trailer, and tow home that way?

My car setup, mostly stock with PP520's and VR6/G60 clutch. No trailer brakes. Total distance with this load: 1,200 miles.

What would you do?
I'd pull it on a dolly. The ones that UHaul rents have electric brakes.
My reasoning for suggesting the dolly vs flat trailer, Is you will have the load at lower center of gravity. I've done that drive from Denver to CA. There's some real nasty cross winds especially around that Grand junction area. With the height of the kei truck on a utility trailer, that could spell a recipe for disaster.

The rates aren't bad. I did a 1 way dolly rental from CT to PA. There's no mileage and with the insurance it was only around $70.

You drive out there, enjoy the mpg with no trailer and have it reserved/ready for pick up there.

The downside to the UHaul dolly is that it's heavy. Around 800lbs if I remember correctly. But if it were me I'd take the 300lb weight penalty for the benefit of having my load down low. Also you will have brakes, that's a big win itself considering the weight and the mountains you will be driving.

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Old November 11th, 2017, 17:48   #3108
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I'd pull it on a dolly. The ones that UHaul rents have electric brakes.
My reasoning for suggesting the dolly vs flat trailer, Is you will have the load at lower center of gravity. I've done that drive from Denver to CA. There's some real nasty cross winds especially around that Grand junction area. With the height of the kei truck on a utility trailer, that could spell a recipe for disaster.

The rates aren't bad. I did a 1 way dolly rental from CT to PA. There's no mileage and with the insurance it was only around $70.

You drive out there, enjoy the mpg with no trailer and have it reserved/ready for pick up there.

The downside to the UHaul dolly is that it's heavy. Around 800lbs if I remember correctly. But if it were me I'd take the 300lb weight penalty for the benefit of having my load down low. Also you will have brakes, that's a big win itself considering the weight and the mountains you will be driving.

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sounds like a great idea! Unfortunately, they are quoting me $302 for a dolly rental.
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Old November 11th, 2017, 22:24   #3109
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Uhaul dollies have NO brakes. The 4-up trailers (Called an Auto Transport) do have brakes, but they will NOT rent it to you to put behind your Jetta or anything else that isn't an SUV because the trailer weighs over 2000 lbs EMPTY.

The thing about Uhauls is that you have to qualify the tow through their system, and that limits you to what their lawyers think every vehicle is capable of pulling and stopping. For a VW Jetta, the answer is their system thinks it is only capable of about 500 lbs of load after the overweight of their lightest trailer is considered.

I pulled a 4300 lb Jeep Liberty with my Jetta wagon, on a MasterTow tow dolly without brakes from Virginia to Florida. No issues with stopping it. Just leave plenty of following distance.
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Old November 12th, 2017, 15:27   #3110
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If going the dolly route, check the track width of the mini truck and dolly to see if the dolly will be narrow enough to match u with the truck wheels... And, if you've never used a dolly be aware of the limitations - no backing up, no sharp turns.

Yesterday I got done with the decking on my 5x8 and took it to go buy the lumber to make the sides. It did great! Pretty easy load, of course. These are PT 5/4 deck boards, three 12 footers and six 8 footers.



I ended up putting on a new axle, springs, hangers, and hubs as the ones that came with it were getting pretty rusty. I went with a square galvanized axle that has the spindles drilled to allow you to pump grease back behind the inner bearing and flush it out through the front. I don't plan on submerging the trailer, but being galvanized and filling the hubs with grease as these do should help combat the New England road salt.

I ordered the axle through Northern Tool. It was made by Tie Down Engineering (who recently sold their axle and brake business to Dexter) and when I received it I didn't get the spring perches that were supposed to come with it. I have got to say that my dealings with Northern and their utter lack of basic customer service in this instance make me think twice about ever dealing with them again.

I think the trailer will complement the Golf nicely.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 15:22   #3111
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Uhaul dollies have NO brakes. The 4-up trailers (Called an Auto Transport) do have brakes, but they will NOT rent it to you to put behind your Jetta or anything else that isn't an SUV because the trailer weighs over 2000 lbs EMPTY.

The thing about Uhauls is that you have to qualify the tow through their system, and that limits you to what their lawyers think every vehicle is capable of pulling and stopping. For a VW Jetta, the answer is their system thinks it is only capable of about 500 lbs of load after the overweight of their lightest trailer is considered.

I pulled a 4300 lb Jeep Liberty with my Jetta wagon, on a MasterTow tow dolly without brakes from Virginia to Florida. No issues with stopping it. Just leave plenty of following distance.

**Edit, I misread your post. I thought you said the dolly weighs 2k. But you meant the full sized trailer.


regarding the car, it will qualify. I've rented trailers that I've pulled with the Jetta from UHaul before. Including the full size. There's a pic in the tow thread


Regardless of the brakes, I'd still go with the dolly vs the full size trailer to have the load down low.

You're way off on the weight. I just checked and the dolly only weighs 750 lbs....

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Old November 13th, 2017, 15:30   #3112
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sounds like a great idea! Unfortunately, they are quoting me $302 for a dolly rental.
Eek! That's a lot more than my CT to PA trip. Then again you're going over a thousand miles!

Have you looked into uship? It's a bid site to have stuff shipped. Might be better in the long run, save you the trip and the wear on your vehicle.

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Old November 14th, 2017, 12:28   #3113
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Talk to your local moving companies too. There might be a partial load coming your direction and they could put your new toy on there.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 17:40   #3114
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Just won an auction on a Kei truck (1992 Subaru Sambar - 1,500 lbs) from a Japanese auction a few hours ago, and I'd like to use the Jetta to pick her up in Long Beach and bring back to Denver.

My question to you all is, how would you tow it?

1) Flat tow the Subaru.

OR

2) Load the Subaru on a 500 lb 5x8 utility trailer, and tow home that way?

My car setup, mostly stock with PP520's and VR6/G60 clutch. No trailer brakes. Total distance with this load: 1,200 miles.

What would you do?
I would never think about towing a car with a car with no trailer brakes through the 6%-8% grade roads in Denver. I've driven through there with just my car and have experienced brake fade going down an 8% grade.

If you are brazen enough to tow a car with a car without trailer brakes down a 6% grade, make sure to downshift into the lowest gear possible before going down the grade and don't use your brakes unless absolutely necessary (no riding the brake).

And most importantly, make sure to post the dates and roads you will be traveling so I can be sure to avoid them
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Old November 15th, 2017, 09:18   #3115
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I think everyone is missing just how light that "car" is.. It's 1500lbs... lighter than 2 full size motorcycles... put it on the trailer and tow it.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 11:38   #3116
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Easy for you to say when you're doing the backseat driving

It only took me once of losing brakes with a 7500 lb load to realize the importance of working trailer brakes.

And don't forget the weight of the trailer. I've loaded my 1200lb Kawasaki Mule onto my 5x8 trailer which weighs almost 800 lbs which I pulled once 20 miles with my Jetta because my Excursion was waiting for a new transmission. Can it do it? Sure. But on a 5x8 trailer, it's super top heavy and will tip easily. And I would not want to rely on the puny Jetta brakes stop me in an emergency braking situation going down 55mph+ on a significant grade. Not to mention it crawled going up a slight grade.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 14:10   #3117
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Old November 15th, 2017, 20:11   #3118
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Easy for you to say when you're doing the backseat driving
It only took me once of losing brakes with a 7500 lb load to realize the importance of working trailer brakes.
And don't forget the weight of the trailer. I've loaded my 1200lb Kawasaki Mule onto my 5x8 trailer which weighs almost 800 lbs which I pulled once 20 miles with my Jetta because my Excursion was waiting for a new transmission. Can it do it? Sure. But on a 5x8 trailer, it's super top heavy and will tip easily. And I would not want to rely on the puny Jetta brakes stop me in an emergency braking situation going down 55mph+ on a significant grade. Not to mention it crawled going up a slight grade.
There's not any backseat driving going on here - He's pulled a MkIV from New England to Florida if I recall, over 6000lb gross.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 21:05   #3119
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I’ve towed cars and trucks long distance with enclosed trailer, flatbed, and dolly’s. My favorite is acme dolly by eze-tow with surge brakes. You need to pull driveshaft on suv’s But no big deal. These are so easy to tow you forget it’s there. Lots of RV’s use these for their toads.
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Old November 15th, 2017, 22:06   #3120
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Asked over at TDI 101 but didn't get many answers, thought I should ask here. Got a 2015 Golf TDI with DSG tranny and need to get a motorcycle and sidecar from Illinois to Florida, weight with trailer would be 1100-1200 pounds. Thinking of using easily removable wiring and a bike rack gives an alibi for the hitch in case I have to get any warranty repairs.

Question before I try this- Has anyone been denied warranty coverage for having a hitch on a DSG equiped TDI?
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