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Old November 14th, 2017, 10:39   #1
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Default Starter seems sluggish, like I have a bad battery

It happens this time of year when temps get below the freezing point. The car turns over slower than normal and sometimes drains the battery before it starts. The battery is 1 year old and tests out fine. I've replaced 3 batteries in the last 5 years. A new battery would get me through the winter, other than extreme cold when I don't dare drive it not knowing if it will start or not. It sits outside for ~11 hours while I'm at work during the day.

FYI, Alternator is kicking out 14.6 volts.

Now I'm considering that this may be a starter issue? How can I really tell, or test the starter? My sister had a 2009 VW Jetta TDI that started without issue even during the coldest times.

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Old November 14th, 2017, 14:09   #2
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I'm not having issues with the battery draining overnight. It just seems to be the starter being very hard to turn over the engine and drain the battery while starting. Just wondering if there is a way to test the starter to see if it creating excessive load due to it not work correctly.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 15:32   #3
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Pull the starter and bring it in to an auto electric repair shop.
We have a good one in Grand Rapids MN ;-)
When my 2009 was running it would start great, never had an issue with it turning over.
The other thing to check is the real true proper battery. Sounds like you might have some other electrical issue going on if you have replaced the battery that many times.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 17:54   #4
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Honestly, the only reason I replaced the battery that often was to help it start better throughout the winter. During the warm months I have zero starting issues.

Thanks for the suggestion.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 21:24   #5
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I think you know that you need a starter.
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Old November 14th, 2017, 22:14   #6
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...or...in incorrect size battery...
Would oil viscosity have an impact on cold weather starting? What weight oil?
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Old November 15th, 2017, 05:30   #7
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I think you know that you need a starter.
I don't know for sure. It's just another piece of the puzzle that could cause my issue. I definitely don't want to throw parts into it and end up throwing money away.

Are you sure I need a starter?
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The Bosch starters rarely just up and die like many other brands of starters do. They almost always get weak and cause slow cranks as they get old.

I think you will be shocked to see just how quickly the engine cranks with a new (reman) Bosch starter installed.

I am doing one on a 1/4 million mile + BRM car this morning, actually, because the owner was told it would be wise to get it replaced before going into winter.
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The Bosch starters rarely just up and die like many other brands of starters do. They almost always get weak and cause slow cranks as they get old.

I think you will be shocked to see just how quickly the engine cranks with a new (reman) Bosch starter installed.

I am doing one on a 1/4 million mile + BRM car this morning, actually, because the owner was told it would be wise to get it replaced before going into winter.
Ok, I think you've talked me into it.

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...or...in incorrect size battery...
Would oil viscosity have an impact on cold weather starting? What weight oil?
What battery are you putting in?
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What battery are you putting in?

Batteries: Of the 3 batteries I've changed out in the last 5 years, 2 were from VW and 1 was an EverStart Maxx. Didn't notice a difference between them.

Oil: In the last 5 years, roughly 10 oil changes, 7 were whatever VW uses and 3 where mobile 1 TDT 5W40. Again, I did not notice an easier or harder start; ever.
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Batteries: Of the 3 batteries I've changed out in the last 5 years, 2 were from VW and 1 was an EverStart Maxx. Didn't notice a difference between them.
The yes. I would look at the starter.
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I bought a starter from my local Motor parts store. They had is shipped in from Chicago for me. I have no shop to install this myself since I am building a house and have already sold my old house, so I had a local shop put it in for me. I returned later that day only to be told I had the wrong starter. They said it fit installed fine, but when they went to connect the electrical connection to the solenoid, it was the wrong shaped connection. Looking at the replacement starter it had a rectangle shaped connection (Starter- Wilson BBS 17755).

I don't want this to happen again, especially if I am going to have to pay for shipping to me and back it its the wrong starter again. Anyone know how I can be sure the starter is the correct one?

They asked the year (2006) it's actually a 2005.5, I told them it was a manual transmission, TDI.

Any pictures of the correct starter may help as well.

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The Bosch number is SR0408x

That is all I would put in there.
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The Bosch number is SR0408x

That is all I would put in there.

Learned this years ago, the hard way. You aren't going to save much upfront and it will never even be close to worth it in the long run...for so many reason.
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