Head chipping around injector. 2006 Brm

Mkgschmidt

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2006 Brm Tdi
Hey guys, I have a 2006 BRM tdi and I pulled my head off my motor after accidentally loosening a couple head bolts after doing my cam....Yeah i know i was dumb but, i found that there is some slight chipping around 2 of the injectors and a couple burnt intake valves. What I'm wondering is, can i run this head? Ive attached some pictures of it. I seem to be having a very hard time finding another used head up here in canada.
Thanks in advance for any responses

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V1sHCXbBipITAaGlIdnzPjGEqaYV4MZp/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P2539gfa6bsGJXPFIqaT2RRN0keqS9Dm/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B8WM0oMKRUn3OiIy8m13PYV9pCDA0jCh/view?usp=drivesdk
 
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adamss24

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I would get it chemically cleaned and then post pictures of the damaged atras. Many heads can be fixed, we weld many With erozion damage due to improper coolant used or damage from dropped valves. In your instance of the valve seats are not damaged then its only a couple of new valves and a light skim of you're lucky !
 

adamss24

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I would get it chemically cleaned and then post pictures of the damaged atras. Many heads can be fixed, we weld many With erozion damage due to improper coolant used or damage from dropped valves. In your instance of the valve seats are not damaged then its only a couple of new valves and a light skim of you're lucky !
 

Mongler98

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Clearly some sort of pitting. Liiks like from a burnt valve. Is that the exhaust valve next to it? I've seen stuff like this before, but only on dumb things like lawn mower engines and scooter engines. Water cooled and air cooled alike. Thay all had the Same in common, burnt exhaust rings, cause running lean (gas lean equals too hot), in detail terms that points me to a messed up injector. Possibly a leaking nozzle there or a pin hole crack or something might be spraying through there or just from higher than normal egts. Not sure on diesels but that's my experiance. The head will clearly need to be rebuilt and repaired and a new seat ground in. Take the valve off and let us know.
Talk to franko6
 

TDIMeister

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VW Diesel cylinder heads since time immemorial develop cracks between the intake and exhaust valve. In mild cases, the head can still be used.

It appears that a chip has broken off between the injector and valve. There is a pressed-in valve seat there so even if a small chunk of aluminum is missing you're probably OK if there's no oil in the coolant or overpressurizing/overflowing coolant. Franko6 can probably tell you right away from the pictures if the head can still be used.
 

Franko6

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Thank you for that introduction, TDIMeister.

I'm more interested in what your pistons look like right now. I am going to guess you have some 'upgrade' nozzles, perhaps a tune that has the engine way up in horsepower or maybe you simply drive very 'spiritedly'.

The first pic you have seems to 1) not have the valves turning, as the same spot is blistered on the valve seat and the valve. Probably if the valve were turning as it should, the valve would be spreading the heat over the perimeter of the valve. 2) that picture shows the bad erosion that the aluminum that should be between the injector bore and the intake seat is GONE. The valve is ruined. I'm guessing the lifters are dished and not rotating. I bet the cam is shot.

The second picture, again, shows severe overheating of the area around the injector bore. At the very edge of the picture, there is another chunk of valve missing into the seat. This is a variation of the first picture, not quite as bad, but no less, a ruined valve and the seat would need rebuilt.

The third picture is most telling as I can see it is the #1 cylinder. There are several interesting points on the head. 1) The nozzle is burnt and appears to be pitted. This is a very hot injector, probably overfueling is the worst on this cylinder. The overheated injector usually causes the nozzle to fail and it has a runaway fueling 2)There are extreme pits on the manifold side of the cylinder head at the edge of the gasket. The pitting is extreme. 3) The front side of the head appears to have been very hot and lost the headgasket seal. 4) The top of the intake valve and an area under the exhaust valve have some dusting of what I believe is melted aluminum. If you were to take a shot of the piston, I think you will find the radius going into the combustion bowl is probably more like 1/2" than the 3/16" it is supposed to be. You are melting out your pistons.

The #1 and #2 pistons are most likely to have problems with melting, as the intake manifold 'starves' those cylinders for air. Excessive fuel and insufficient air will cause this overheat condition, but it can also simply be injectors that are running too much fuel or fueling uncontrollably.

My conclusion is the head is ruined. The block is warped and I'm guessing there are at least two pistons that are melted.

I am making an attempt to remedy this vexing problem for injector location and damage to the intake valve and seat. As TDIMeister said, this is far from an isolated issue. All the PD motors, especially ones that are pushed too hard suffer a crack to the intake seat. Your situation is much more severe than normally seen.

I would like to see additional pictures of the #1 and #2 pistons. I would like to know which cylinders the first two pictures are related to.

Feel free to contact me.
 
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