FTC Warns VW Dealers Not To Screw TDI Owners With Shady Offers

A dealer would try to screw you over? I'm shocked.....

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2016/08/dealers-vw-owners-deserve-straight-story

Oh goodie! The government is protecting me once more.

It feels sooooo good to know that the FTC is watching over me and making sure no one takes advantage of me.

It's like that warm feeling on my left leg and foot I can get by urinating down my leg.

From the FTC release:

People who own VWs that were falsely advertised as “clean diesels” have already been injured once. FTC staff will be watching closely to ensure the compensation process proceeds unsullied by deception.

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And how are they (FTC staff) going to do that watching?

Interesting. I was at a dealership today for a 30,000 mi service and was told that the dealer would be deducting for condition defects when taking back TDIs.

Mrszippy said:

Interesting. I was at a dealership today for a 30,000 mi service and was told that the dealer would be deducting for condition defects when taking back TDIs.

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That action is not indicated in the draft consent agreement published by the court.

VW cheats and then people are skeptical that a government organization might be trying to help them. Some will still scam, maybe a few timid scammers will go look for easier pickings.

Mrszippy said:

Interesting. I was at a dealership today for a 30,000 mi service and was told that the dealer would be deducting for condition defects when taking back TDIs.

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Dealer staff knows far less than the average forum participant. Last time I was at a dealer, the service writer told me it would be "no problem" to add an Adblue tank to my 2009 Jetta.

That's 100% bull. Money is coming from VW not the independent dealer network. They have no say. They're just mere parking lots.

Mrszippy said:

Interesting. I was at a dealership today for a 30,000 mi service and was told that the dealer would be deducting for condition defects when taking back TDIs.

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HBarlow said:

Oh goodie! The government is protecting me once more.

It feels sooooo good to know that the FTC is watching over me and making sure no one takes advantage of me.

It's like that warm feeling on my left leg and foot I can get by urinating down my leg.

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In this case though it's not you doing the urinating.

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Dr. D said:

That's 100% bull. Money is coming from VW not the independent dealer network. They have no say. They're just mere parking lots.

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That's the predatory practice, they lie saying you will only get the full payout if you trade in. Some people will fall for it.

The scamming in auto sales is beyond comprehension: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U2eDJnwz_s

Lol!, got this from the Internet sales person at my selling dealership boy if Chris was still with us what would he think......
I've been trying to reach you about your vehicle - I have a customer that maybe interested in buying it. My manager has approved me to pay you over market value so I can get this deal done. Give me a call:

Penny Robinson

Burlington Volkswagen
4500 RT 130 S
Burlington, NJ 08016
609-534-2230

Thanks!

They should apply this to all reasonably new cars being traded in. KBB trade in value. Why not? lol

I'd call her and let her know what your (buyback) market value is.....

BPofMD said:

I'd call her and let her know what your (buyback) market value is.....

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I told her think what would Chris do?

HBarlow said:

Oh goodie! The government is protecting me once more.

It feels sooooo good to know that the FTC is watching over me and making sure no one takes advantage of me.

It's like that warm feeling on my left leg and foot I can get by urinating down my leg.

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I read and re-read that first paragraph and it sure feels to me like the FTC is suggesting that they deserve full credit for the $10 billion settlement. I thought that it was the EPA. Anyway, I'm not involved in the debacle, so I should just shut up.

Mrszippy said:

Interesting. I was at a dealership today for a 30,000 mi service and was told that the dealer would be deducting for condition defects when taking back TDIs.

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And so they should. If you have damage, door dings, or scratches that should be deducted.

TomB said:

And so they should. If you have damage, door dings, or scratches that should be deducted.

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And with that said, do you think on top of buying my 2013 Passat TDI SEL Premium with 50k miles, they are going to pay me HALF of what I spent on the 10 year/120k mile warranty contract (which is transferable)? If they are going to nick pick the car's condition, they should pay back the customer for ANYTHING purchased at time of sale for the car, and that includes the 5 year tire/wheel warranty. So, on top of the $27k I COULD be getting back, they need to tack on another 1500 for the remainder of the car warranty and 250.00 for the rest of the tire warranty. However, I doubt this is going to happen.

HBarlow said:

It's like that warm feeling on my left leg and foot I can get by urinating down my leg.

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Just like Chris Matthews felt whenever he heard Obama make a speech.

Mrszippy said:

Interesting. I was at a dealership today for a 30,000 mi service and was told that the dealer would be deducting for condition defects when taking back TDIs.

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Only for people who are doing early lease returns. If owners (not leasers!) are opting for the buyout, the ONLY condition is that the car has to drive under the power of the 2.0 TDI engine. There is NO mention of the condition of the vehicle otherwise.

And BOTH of these situations are explained in the consent decree documents.

tc1uscg said:

And with that said, do you think on top of buying my 2013 Passat TDI SEL Premium with 50k miles, they are going to pay me HALF of what I spent on the 10 year/120k mile warranty contract (which is transferable)?

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For what must be the bazillionth time in these forums ... YES you can get a pro-rated refund on the unused portion of your extended warranty IF that warranty was purchased through a reputable provider. If you bought a cheap extended warranty from a fly-by-night, you're on your own. So ... contact your warranty provider.

tc1uscg said:

If they are going to nick pick the car's condition, they should pay back the customer for ANYTHING purchased at time of sale for the car, and that includes the 5 year tire/wheel warranty. So, on top of the $27k I COULD be getting back, they need to tack on another 1500 for the remainder of the car warranty and 250.00 for the rest of the tire warranty. However, I doubt this is going to happen.

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Once again ... you need to contact the provider for your warranty. Reputable? You should get a pro-rated refund. Fly-by-night? You're on your own.

Please do your research before ranting and complaining.

My 2009 JSW TDI will drive into the lot under its own power as per the agreement. Plus after market wheels, HD rear springs. Door dings and CELs included.


Read the agreement.

DieselMann99 said:

Just like Chris Matthews felt whenever he heard Obama make a speech.

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That was probably what caused Mathew's leg tingle. Weird!