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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old June 17th, 2019, 12:39   #1
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Default Phase 2 visual confirmation on 2015 GSW?

I have what I hope is a simple question, is there an easy way to visually confirm that Phase 2 of the recall has been completed on a 2015 Golf Sportwagen?


I bought a CPO 2015 GSW over the weekend, got it home and found the sticker under the hood shows partial emissions. I have been on the phone with the dealership off and on all day, just spoke to the service department and they claim the full recall was done, and someone must have just not put the sticker under the hood, I want to confirm if this is true, as the date on the "partial" sticker is 7 days ago.


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Old June 17th, 2019, 16:14   #2
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I was under the impression that Phase 2 is something they only perform after the vehicle has clocked 70,000 miles, not before. Are you past that point?
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Old June 17th, 2019, 23:16   #3
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On your hood near a hinge are two stickers. Look closely at the bottom sticker. This is a Phase-1 sticker. It says 'Proof of Partial Completion.' Below that is a tiny box that is checked and says 'Software Update.'



Phase-2 is hardware (new catalyst system) and a software update. There should be a new sticker stating that, if your car has had the Phase-2 update. My car is still under 70k miles so I'm still on Phase-1.

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Old June 18th, 2019, 00:22   #4
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This is the point the sticker says partial complete, the dealer service department claims they did the full recall. I want to confirm they actually did.
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Old June 18th, 2019, 09:41   #5
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https://www.vwdieselinfo.com/

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Old June 18th, 2019, 12:13   #6
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I thought there was an A and B parts on the 2015's. It was 40k for the auto and 70k for the manual, for part A, then some undetermined future date for part B for the emissions hardware change. Part A was just a sensor and pipe and software.
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Old June 18th, 2019, 17:15   #7
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It is, but from what I have read online is that any CPO cars sold after March were supposed to get the fix, and everyone else should be receiving a letter by the end of this month for the part B fix.
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So no matter what the dealer says, it can't be complete, as part b isn't even available yet. It will have part A completed as that is required for resale. It may have part 2A done but there is no way part 2b could be done yet. If you get the repair records and see what parts were installed for part 2(?), if it just shows sensor and programming, then that is where you are at. If there is a dpf and such listed them maybe they did part 2b prematurely, but I doubt it as they can't get paid without VW's approval.
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Hence my confusion and wanting to know if these is some easy to spot visual clue of what work has been done, other than the stickers which says partial.
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For part 2A there will be a new sensor and pipe to accommodate it, in the exhaust path. That would be the only way to tell visually. I would go to VW and insist on the service records dating back to the buyback/part 1, first fix. There should be no previous owner issues as VW bought it back and should be the listed owner. Any dealer should be able to provide this but the actual servicing dealer should do it.
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They must be doing things different in the US of A. I had both phase 1 and 2 done and I had under 50,000km about 30,000 miles. Phase 2 last year mid summer.
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Old June 20th, 2019, 13:28   #12
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I am just posting back with an update on this saga, VW Customer Care updated me by email this morning saying my ownership data had just flowed through to their system, and that according to it the rear spring recall as well as Gen 3 Phase 2 A&B had been completed, this of course leaves the fact that I don't have the updated emissions certification sticker, or the completed recall sticker under the hood, only the "partial completion" sticker dated last Monday. So it remains obvious someone screwed up, though exactly what that screw up is remains unknown. On the one hand it may be simply not adding the correct stickers, on the other it may be entering into the computer work that was not done. I just don't know.


p.s. I just got off a chat session with Customer Care, they are looking into this matter and will be following up with me by email within 24 hours
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Get your car on a lift and look. Friendly garage in your area? The servicing dealer should have paper work showing what was installed parts wise. No dpf etc, no part 2B done yet. I would assume you haven't gotten part 2B done yet. If they can't document it it hasn't been done, even if it has. Legally they are required to do the change and document it and sticker it. If they can't prove that force them to redo everything.
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Old June 21st, 2019, 13:35   #14
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if they did not properly fix it, does that mean they could be forced to buyback the vehicle?

I would LOVE for them to take my cars back. Had I know the fix would be so crummy I would have sold the car back instead of having them "fix" it.
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I spoke to the service manager at the local VW dealership today, and according to him only phase a has been done, and all the other people that told me phase b was complete (including the VW customer cares, dealership salesman, and service desk personnel) were wrong.
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