OEM NAVI (MFD1,2,3, OR RNS-E) on Seat Leon FR 1M with golf 4 full fis tacho
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Thank you for keep this thread alive.
My friend has seen a possible interface module, very similar yours. Need to do more research before sharing.
Do you know if the interface you're using was modified by the original owner?
My friend has seen a possible interface module, very similar yours. Need to do more research before sharing.
Do you know if the interface you're using was modified by the original owner?
You're welcome, i'd love to see someone else to get this mod fully working..
The main problem is the special interface.
This week i'd be able to get in contact with the friend who sold me the whole set, and i hope to get good news.
Otherwise, feel free to ask everything you want, i'll be happy to help you if i could.
Then if someone want to try to contact some kufatec technician and invite him on this thread...
I'd be very very happy, maybe we could increase the changes to find some other sample of this special interface..
No problem.
After years of searching, i want to give help everyone interested in this mod, just like i've received help from other users before.
I think so, if you notice in this pic, in the very upper part, it seems like someone changes 2 circuits with a little welding..
but unfortunately i'm not an expert in this field..
of course if you get some news please let me know!!
Oh really??
very good info..
so maybe we've only to find out where the 3 wires (clock data enable) come from, and the software that's used in this interface..
thinking a loud
when the audi a4/ a6 owners upgrade from a RNS-D (similar to MFD in mkiv golf) they use the tmc can gateway for the RNS-E to talk to the cluster etc. Does anyone know if the CAN gateway version of MFD G version has the same firmware as the Audi tmc can gateway?
when the audi a4/ a6 owners upgrade from a RNS-D (similar to MFD in mkiv golf) they use the tmc can gateway for the RNS-E to talk to the cluster etc. Does anyone know if the CAN gateway version of MFD G version has the same firmware as the Audi tmc can gateway?
read the audi b5 install of the RNS-E, looks like the tmc unit is a red herring
really don't know..
ignore that idea. Looks like the way to go is using a can emulator like M206, is the way to go.
currently in talks with a german company regarding the can emulator
yes, i think so too..
here you are something maybe useful:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_Radio/Navigation_System_(RNS-E)#Coding
same discussion in german and english language:
http://www.passat3b.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=47104
http://www.passatworld.com/forums/60-mobile-electronics/219400-audi-rns-e-b5-5-pics-inside.html
the strange thing is that it seems that this first kind of can-bus emulator showed only the upper third part of the fis..
to find it they talk about a TT Forum but with no links..
who knows..
someone could contact kufatek??
here you are something maybe useful:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Audi_Radio/Navigation_System_(RNS-E)#Coding
same discussion in german and english language:
http://www.passat3b.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=47104
http://www.passatworld.com/forums/60-mobile-electronics/219400-audi-rns-e-b5-5-pics-inside.html
the strange thing is that it seems that this first kind of can-bus emulator showed only the upper third part of the fis..
to find it they talk about a TT Forum but with no links..
who knows..
someone could contact kufatek??
here you are the mail I sent to kufatec:
Hello, i've a seat leon 1m 1.9 tdi 150 hp ARL year 2005.
My car is can bus and immo3.
I've installed succesfully a full fis tacho from golf 4 1j5 920 846 c and
everything works.
Last year i've been able to install an used audi RNS-E.
The seller sold me also a special interface (can bus simultaor)to get all the
rns-e info on the golf 4 fis. (mp3, navi arrows, phone numbers ecc)
Everything works perfectly.
I'd like to know if you can reproduce this special interface cause it was
home-made modified by the seller to obtain the 3lb wire connection to get the info on the fis.
Several friend of mine would be interested in this mod.
If you need i can send you some pics of the interface itself.
Or i can show you some links with the discussion i created on online forums:
http://audiforum.us/threads/rns-e-on-seat-leon-fr-1m-with-golf-4-full-fis-tacho.5607/page-2
please let me know if this is a interface based on one of your models or not, and if you can help me.
many thanks.
Best regards.
Matteo
here you are the reply:
Dear Matteo,
Thank you for your request.
We're sorry but we cannot help you. This is not an interface of us.
Feel free to contact us if you have any other questions.
Kind regards,
KUFATEC Support Team
Nima Ghassemi
KUFATEC GmbH & Co. KG
Dahlienstr. 15
D - 23795 Bad Segeberg
so bad they don't want to investigate about my request..
what could we do??
Hello, i've a seat leon 1m 1.9 tdi 150 hp ARL year 2005.
My car is can bus and immo3.
I've installed succesfully a full fis tacho from golf 4 1j5 920 846 c and
everything works.
Last year i've been able to install an used audi RNS-E.
The seller sold me also a special interface (can bus simultaor)to get all the
rns-e info on the golf 4 fis. (mp3, navi arrows, phone numbers ecc)
Everything works perfectly.
I'd like to know if you can reproduce this special interface cause it was
home-made modified by the seller to obtain the 3lb wire connection to get the info on the fis.
Several friend of mine would be interested in this mod.
If you need i can send you some pics of the interface itself.
Or i can show you some links with the discussion i created on online forums:
http://audiforum.us/threads/rns-e-on-seat-leon-fr-1m-with-golf-4-full-fis-tacho.5607/page-2
please let me know if this is a interface based on one of your models or not, and if you can help me.
many thanks.
Best regards.
Matteo
here you are the reply:
Dear Matteo,
Thank you for your request.
We're sorry but we cannot help you. This is not an interface of us.
Feel free to contact us if you have any other questions.
Kind regards,
KUFATEC Support Team
Nima Ghassemi
KUFATEC GmbH & Co. KG
Dahlienstr. 15
D - 23795 Bad Segeberg
so bad they don't want to investigate about my request..
what could we do??
still no news from my friend..
but maybe a good news to retrofit the rns-510 in a golf 4 with fully FIS integration..
still to be confirmed:
http://www.canshack.de/default/volk...ion-arrows-pfeile-in-mfa-mfd-fis-cluster.html
it's compatible with touareg, t5, and polo 9n3, all with can bus 1.6.
since polo 9n3 is very similar to latest golf 4, i think there could be some real chances to get it work on golf 4 fis too..
but maybe a good news to retrofit the rns-510 in a golf 4 with fully FIS integration..
still to be confirmed:
http://www.canshack.de/default/volk...ion-arrows-pfeile-in-mfa-mfd-fis-cluster.html
it's compatible with touareg, t5, and polo 9n3, all with can bus 1.6.
since polo 9n3 is very similar to latest golf 4, i think there could be some real chances to get it work on golf 4 fis too..
little old links, but it seems that someone finally found an interface (not sure it's canshack one) that let rns-510 work with a full fis with can bus 1.6. not sure it will work with a golf 4:
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/188441-fabia-my-2008-with-columbus/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDerSOKxBjM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
good news right??
http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/188441-fabia-my-2008-with-columbus/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDerSOKxBjM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
good news right??
tongsli
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still no news from my friend..
but maybe a good news to retrofit the rns-510 in a golf 4 with fully FIS integration..
still to be confirmed:
http://www.canshack.de/default/volk...ion-arrows-pfeile-in-mfa-mfd-fis-cluster.html
it's compatible with touareg, t5, and polo 9n3, all with can bus 1.6.
since polo 9n3 is very similar to latest golf 4, i think there could be some real chances to get it work on golf 4 fis too..
I'm interested. But I think you need a MKIV 2002 or newer with quadlock connector for the canshack product to work?
I sent an email asking but still no answer. did you see my RNS2 retrofit?
uhm, i don't know, before installing rns-e in my leon, i started with these 2 connectors (no quadlock):
the quadlock adaptor was included..so i think it's not a limitation to have the 2 standard connectors..
be patient, Stefan will reply to you as soon as possible, he replied to me a lot of time in these weeks.
Yes i saw your rns2 upgrade, great mod many compliments..
It's only lacks are the mp3 and the bluetooth phone i think.
Otherwise it was my first choice before getting the audi rns-e!!
tongsli
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Man! I wish I had YOUR dash. It's looks VERY wide It would be great if the canshack product could work with the standard ISO connectors. I just don't know what Navi I could adapt to my car 2000 Jetta sedan.
The RNS2 went into a 2004 MKIV.
I do have the GROM bluetooth and Iphone adapter(which I use for music) I am considering it for the RNS2 because it sounds better than the AUX input plug.
It would be great if the canshack product could work with the standard ISO connectors. I just don't know what Navi I could adapt to my car 2000 Jetta sedan.The RNS2 went into a 2004 MKIV.
I do have the GROM bluetooth and Iphone adapter(which I use for music) I am considering it for the RNS2 because it sounds better than the AUX input plug.
yes it's wider than a golf4..
i don't know if they need the quadlock anyway, but i think you could buy an adaptor, it's easy to find i think.
i don't know for a 2000 car (depends if you have can bus or not), anyway, the canshack interface will work using pin 8-9 of the green cluster (i know only immo3 for now) just like rns2..
in your 2000 jetta sedan what kind of cluster do you have?? so you can try to understand what kind of navi you could add..
i don't know if they need the quadlock anyway, but i think you could buy an adaptor, it's easy to find i think.
i don't know for a 2000 car (depends if you have can bus or not), anyway, the canshack interface will work using pin 8-9 of the green cluster (i know only immo3 for now) just like rns2..
in your 2000 jetta sedan what kind of cluster do you have?? so you can try to understand what kind of navi you could add..
tongsli
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My 2000 Jetta has the Bora sport cluster with FIS. But uses 3LB to communicate with the MFD1.yes it's wider than a golf4..
i don't know if they need the quadlock anyway, but i think you could buy an adaptor, it's easy to find i think.
i don't know for a 2000 car (depends if you have can bus or not), anyway, the canshack interface will work using pin 8-9 of the green cluster (i know only immo3 for now) just like rns2..
in your 2000 jetta sedan what kind of cluster do you have?? so you can try to understand what kind of navi you could add..
I do not have the additional can bus for the radio like the 2004
do you have the part number of your cluster??My 2000 Jetta has the Bora sport cluster with FIS. But uses 3LB to communicate with the MFD1.
I do not have the additional can bus for the radio like the 2004
so if and when i'll decide to sell my audi rns-e (that show info on fis via 3LB), i'll remember about you..
tongsli
Top Post Dawg
1j5 920 946C is the cluster.
the same I have..i have only 846 instead of 946 you retrofitted it right??
so i think that with pin 8 and 9 green cluster you could install the rns2..
you could try and see if the info on fis appear like on the 2004 golf..
tongsli
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From the Navi can hi and lo to the green cluster?
2k2 model, Golf/Jetta (Bora) - euro:
32-pin, green:
1 - vacant
2 - reading coil for immo 1
3 - warning lamp for side lights
4 - data bus (CAN), screening for input signals
5 - W-wire
6 - washer fluid shortage
7 - brake pad wear
8 - vacantDatabus high input signal/convenience electronics/central locking
9 - vacantDatabus low input signal/convenience electronics/central locking
10 - vacant
11 - signal for vehicle stationary
12 - aircon system cut-off
13 - warning lamp for hand brake
14 - warning lamp for ASR/ESP
15 - vacant
16 - vacant
17 - reading coil for immo 2
18 - oil temp & level warning signals
19 - data bus (CAN), high input signal
20 - data bus (CAN), low input signal
21 - vacant Lamp Failure shown on the Passat wiring
22 - bonnet switch input signal
23 - MFI call up button, top
24 - MFI call up button, bottom
25 - MFI memory switch - reset
26 - ambient temp input signal
27 - data bus (CAN), high output signal
28 - data bus (CAN), low output signal
29 - vacant
30 - vacant clock for the NAVI to cluster connection
31 - vacant data for the NAVI to cluster connection
32 - vacant enable for the NAVI to cluster connection
2k2 model, Golf/Jetta (Bora) - euro:
32-pin, green:
1 - vacant
2 - reading coil for immo 1
3 - warning lamp for side lights
4 - data bus (CAN), screening for input signals
5 - W-wire
6 - washer fluid shortage
7 - brake pad wear
8 - vacantDatabus high input signal/convenience electronics/central locking
9 - vacantDatabus low input signal/convenience electronics/central locking
10 - vacant
11 - signal for vehicle stationary
12 - aircon system cut-off
13 - warning lamp for hand brake
14 - warning lamp for ASR/ESP
15 - vacant
16 - vacant
17 - reading coil for immo 2
18 - oil temp & level warning signals
19 - data bus (CAN), high input signal
20 - data bus (CAN), low input signal
21 - vacant Lamp Failure shown on the Passat wiring
22 - bonnet switch input signal
23 - MFI call up button, top
24 - MFI call up button, bottom
25 - MFI memory switch - reset
26 - ambient temp input signal
27 - data bus (CAN), high output signal
28 - data bus (CAN), low output signal
29 - vacant
30 - vacant clock for the NAVI to cluster connection
31 - vacant data for the NAVI to cluster connection
32 - vacant enable for the NAVI to cluster connection
absolutely yes!!
but i don't remember with wirings (pin) us have to use from the rns2 navi..i know for sure that pin to use in the green connector are 8 and 9..
tongsli
Top Post Dawg
Has this been tried and confirmed in any combination(navi to cluster) to work?absolutely yes!!
but i don't remember with wirings (pin) us have to use from the rns2 navi..i know for sure that pin to use in the green connector are 8 and 9..
yes of course.
2 years ago i went to a friend of mine to make a test, he has a rns2, i had only the 2 connector as the picture above, he connected with his adaptor from the 2 connector into quadlock, we connected it and the 2 wirings from the rns2 to pin 8 and 9 green connector of my tacho, and everything worked fine. here you are 2 pics:
there are little difference in display compared to my actual rns-e, in particular in the upper part of the fis, where the info on the 2 lines are inverted.