BrewCity
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Hello,
I'm new to the world of VW ownership...late to the game as usual. I'm really amazed at the knowledge base here, all you guys and gals have really put in a lot of good info to this site. I appreciate it greatly.
Sorry for the long winded story to follow...
So, I have...eh, I'll call it an electrical issue. Some background...I seemed to have an intermittent issue that when I turn off the car I would get clicking noises coming from various door locks and back hatch like they were trying to lock/unlock, short buzzes coming from the Comfort Control Module "CCM", and dash lights flickering. This would continue until I turned the car back on, only problem is it normally would not turn on immediately...as in no dash lights when key turned to the On position and absolutely nothing when attempting to start. The temporary fix seemed to be move the key off/on a few times, maybe combined with holding down brake pedal and going through the gears (auto transmission). That could happen every time I turned off the car for a few days straight, then not do it at all for a couple weeks. During this time my transmission suddenly developed a delay in shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear, like it would go into neutral for maybe 1 sec then into 3rd gear. This is not gear slipping. It came on sudden, happened 100% of the time on 2nd to 3rd shifts and went away 100% when I did the manual reset...key in On position, gas pedal down, etc. But that issue came back 2 weeks later and the reset no longer worked. At this point I made the mistake of taking the car to the dealership to have them tell me the Vag Com readings but they just told me my transmission was bad and they'd put a used one in for $6,300. So after some research I decided to change out the shift solenoids...I didn't yet have a Vag Com, but I do like to get to know my car and wanted to see the ATF myself, especially after the dealership told me the trans was bad. Well, the fluid looked surprisingly good, dark but no shavings or clutch material. I changed fluid and filter twice over a couple weeks just cause I like to get dirty By this time I now have a Vag Com. I did a reset / relearn on the trans and it's shifting great...no 2nd to 3rd delay. A few days of no issues goes by and one day I turn off the car and I get all the clicking door locks, no key On position recognized, and buzzing from the CCM. I have a friend that let me borrow his CCM...I'm clearing DTC's after everything I do here. But after a few days driving the clicking, buzzing came back...AND NOW so did the delayed shift from 2nd to 3rd gear. I had a few weeks of driving with great shifting.
So, hopefully all this rambling makes sense to someone. Also, I hope someone can use my readings from the Vag Com. Oh, in all the DTC checking the "Door Module" faults has shown up intermittently and the ABS brakes is brand new.
Thursday,10,May,2018,18:24:31:58899
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 9BWGP61JX24013425 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
VIN: 9BWGP61JX24013425 Mileage: 272060km-169050miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.clb
Part No: 038 906 012 FD
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G400AG 4102
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 57EB76BBE613058F632-4B1E
9BWGP61JX24013425 VWZ7Z0A3889498
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
Part No: 01M 927 733 KT
Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M 4891
Coding: 00011
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 0C4159D76F5536571E0-0962
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 C
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0004097
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 2A0DFF4F80E148670CC-5184
1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 909 605 F
Component: 08 AIRBAG VW6 0202 0004
Coding: 12344
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 3A2DCF0F7541F8E77CC-513C
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 906 M
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02
Coding: 07232
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 323DE72FAD3100A7B4C-513C
9BWGP61JX24013425 VWZ7Z0A3889498
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 70B92D2763BD72B7828-513C
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 08 Komfortgerát HLO 0001
Coding: 00258
Shop #: WSC 00028
VCID: 372BD63B4653E58F832-4B1E
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
Component: 1Q Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0002
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
Component: 1Q Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
Component: 1Q Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0002
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
Component: 1Q Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0002
7 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01359 - Internal Central Locking Switch; Passenger Side (E198)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:34, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.1V)-----------
***Also...I saw this a few scans back, In Central Conv under Measuring Blocks, Group 16 I saw- 1st Alarm Source show "64" -ignition (terminal 15), 2nd, 3rd and 4th Alarm Source showed "1". My most recent scan shows "64" in the 1st and 2nd Alarm Source.
Does this indicate a problem with the ignition?
I'm new to the world of VW ownership...late to the game as usual. I'm really amazed at the knowledge base here, all you guys and gals have really put in a lot of good info to this site. I appreciate it greatly.
Sorry for the long winded story to follow...
So, I have...eh, I'll call it an electrical issue. Some background...I seemed to have an intermittent issue that when I turn off the car I would get clicking noises coming from various door locks and back hatch like they were trying to lock/unlock, short buzzes coming from the Comfort Control Module "CCM", and dash lights flickering. This would continue until I turned the car back on, only problem is it normally would not turn on immediately...as in no dash lights when key turned to the On position and absolutely nothing when attempting to start. The temporary fix seemed to be move the key off/on a few times, maybe combined with holding down brake pedal and going through the gears (auto transmission). That could happen every time I turned off the car for a few days straight, then not do it at all for a couple weeks. During this time my transmission suddenly developed a delay in shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear, like it would go into neutral for maybe 1 sec then into 3rd gear. This is not gear slipping. It came on sudden, happened 100% of the time on 2nd to 3rd shifts and went away 100% when I did the manual reset...key in On position, gas pedal down, etc. But that issue came back 2 weeks later and the reset no longer worked. At this point I made the mistake of taking the car to the dealership to have them tell me the Vag Com readings but they just told me my transmission was bad and they'd put a used one in for $6,300. So after some research I decided to change out the shift solenoids...I didn't yet have a Vag Com, but I do like to get to know my car and wanted to see the ATF myself, especially after the dealership told me the trans was bad. Well, the fluid looked surprisingly good, dark but no shavings or clutch material. I changed fluid and filter twice over a couple weeks just cause I like to get dirty By this time I now have a Vag Com. I did a reset / relearn on the trans and it's shifting great...no 2nd to 3rd delay. A few days of no issues goes by and one day I turn off the car and I get all the clicking door locks, no key On position recognized, and buzzing from the CCM. I have a friend that let me borrow his CCM...I'm clearing DTC's after everything I do here. But after a few days driving the clicking, buzzing came back...AND NOW so did the delayed shift from 2nd to 3rd gear. I had a few weeks of driving with great shifting.
So, hopefully all this rambling makes sense to someone. Also, I hope someone can use my readings from the Vag Com. Oh, in all the DTC checking the "Door Module" faults has shown up intermittently and the ABS brakes is brand new.
Thursday,10,May,2018,18:24:31:58899
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
VIN: 9BWGP61JX24013425 License Plate:
Chassis Type: 1J (1J - VW Golf/Bora IV (1998 > 2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57 75
76
VIN: 9BWGP61JX24013425 Mileage: 272060km-169050miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.clb
Part No: 038 906 012 FD
Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G400AG 4102
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 57EB76BBE613058F632-4B1E
9BWGP61JX24013425 VWZ7Z0A3889498
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01M-927-733.lbl
Part No: 01M 927 733 KT
Component: AG4 Getriebe 01M 4891
Coding: 00011
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 0C4159D76F5536571E0-0962
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
Part No: 1C0 907 379 C
Component: ABS FRONT MK60 0103
Coding: 0004097
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 2A0DFF4F80E148670CC-5184
1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 6Q0 909 605 F
Component: 08 AIRBAG VW6 0202 0004
Coding: 12344
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 3A2DCF0F7541F8E77CC-513C
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 1J0 920 906 M
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V02
Coding: 07232
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 323DE72FAD3100A7B4C-513C
9BWGP61JX24013425 VWZ7Z0A3889498
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 70B92D2763BD72B7828-513C
1 Fault Found:
01304 - Radio
49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 08 Komfortgerát HLO 0001
Coding: 00258
Shop #: WSC 00028
VCID: 372BD63B4653E58F832-4B1E
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
Component: 1Q Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0002
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
Component: 1Q Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0002
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
Component: 1Q Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0002
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
Component: 1Q Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0002
7 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01359 - Internal Central Locking Switch; Passenger Side (E198)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:34, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.1V)-----------
***Also...I saw this a few scans back, In Central Conv under Measuring Blocks, Group 16 I saw- 1st Alarm Source show "64" -ignition (terminal 15), 2nd, 3rd and 4th Alarm Source showed "1". My most recent scan shows "64" in the 1st and 2nd Alarm Source.
Does this indicate a problem with the ignition?